Karen Yankovich 0:10
Welcome, welcome. Welcome to another episode of The Good girls get rich Podcast. I’m Karen Yankovich. And I’m so excited to be here with Louisa hivers today, I’ve been actually on her podcast. We’ll talk a little bit about that and that’s how we met within the last year. And recently, Louisa did a free masterclass, which she’s calling the signature wealth energetics masterclass and who doesn’t want that right to who does need a little fine tuning of their wealth energetics. So I took that her master class and I loved it so much, I thought I want to talk about this, and I want you to hear about it too. So let me tell you a little bit about Louisa Louisa hivers is an internationally renowned success advisor and creator of the helix method, Master Akashic Records channel soldier and his method. She enables multi six and seven figure entrepreneurs to lift the ceiling in both their lives and businesses. It’s a journey Louisa knows works as she’s personally undertaken it. years spent leading change in the highly pressurized and stressful social services sector led to shingles and chronic fatigue, compelling her to break free from the corporate matrix of overwork. It was the first step to creating her own life of freedom, and making a bigger impact with her dream online business. Louisa enables clients across the globe to activate quantum leaps to success in their own journey of self actualization and fulfillment. Lisa, I’m so excited for this conversation. Oh,

Louisa Havers 1:31
thank you so much for having me, Karen. I’m delighted to be here. And I’m so excited that you came and joined us in the master class.

Karen Yankovich 1:37
Oh, it was, it was a lot of fun. And it was it just came at a time where I’m like, I want to, I want to check this out. But there’s one thing in your bio, I want to just talk about first for a second, because it’s so interesting, because, you know, I also came from corporate and you talk a little bit about the highly pressurized and stressful set you in and the you know, the corporate matrix of overwork. But I actually think that there’s also a lot of entrepreneurs that are in that space right now. And I can tell you that as much as I felt overworked in corporate, I don’t think I worked as many hours as some of the weeks I’ve worked as an entrepreneurs ever. I mean, other than other than rare exceptions, right? As I worked pretty consistently as an entrepreneur, so it’s, it’s interesting, I’m on it on a journey to make to for that not to be the case. And I and it doesn’t need to be the case in my business. And it’s a big part of what I teach. It’s just interesting what we can do to ourselves too, right? Oh

Louisa Havers 2:32
my word Absolutely. And that the corporate matrix of overwork, I when I first became an entrepreneur, I, I did bring that over work with me. Because I was so used to working in that way and really feeling like I needed to hustle really to to have the success and was particularly within social services very used to firefighting, there was a lot of firefighting going on. So having to troubleshoot being sort of thrown in to go and sort something out that, you know, needed resolving instantly. And, and there were kind of life and death scenarios in that field, on you know, on some occasions, not always, of course. And so our nervous systems kind of get used to running on that adrenaline. And of course, I had my own experience of burnout. And I know so many other people who’ve who’ve had that as well. I think you’re absolutely right, I see it too with many of my clients who are entrepreneurs, leading very successful businesses who are on that place of Hang on a second, I am on a an entrepreneurial hamster wheel, of really trying to get that balance, right. So that I’ve got harmony, I’ve got peace, I’ve got quality of life and a successful business. And I’m not kind of sacrificing one against the other because that’s the thing is, is where are where’s the misalignment showing up if everything’s going into our work. And of course, there are periods of any business where we need to put perhaps a little bit more time into the growth of the business then then other periods, but I think it becomes a problem when that’s the default point. And that’s the norm. If that makes sense.

Karen Yankovich 4:13
It does. When I first started my business, I did the same thing. I took the energy over with me. And then I think I got pretty good at it. But then what I didn’t realize was during the pandemic, I went right back to it because what else was there to do, right? So I’d say Okay, I’m gonna stop at five o’clock and then it’d be 530 And I’m like, Well, what do I do? You know, like not really wanting to sit in front of the TV. Let me just go back to my desk and do some more of this right and and I didn’t realize how much I was getting sucked back into that until and and probably for almost a year right before we really went back to in person events and you know, filling work at least here in the US feeling more comfortable going out to dinner or whatever. But it took me another you know, good period of time to kind of undo that again. Oh,

Louisa Havers 4:57
I totally get that I think I’ve done It was certainly something I heard from so many people who already had online businesses and growing their businesses, or indeed, actually, you know, getting their businesses set up was that where’s the off switch, when you haven’t got those sort of markers that we would traditionally have with being able to knowing that are going to go out for dinner with some friends, or you’re taking the kids somewhere, or whatever it might be. There’ll be some sort of other aspects of social life that will be calling you away from your from your from your desk, and that would get me lost that didn’t really, right. And so for all the workaholics out there, you know, trade, you know, are you going to be? Are we going to be watching something on Netflix that may not be very good for the soul? Or are we going to be you know, doing something to contribute to our, you know, our purpose and our family’s well being and serving clients and all the things. So I think it I think many people had that experience of realizing that they sort of fell into another, working all the time type pattern because it felt more fulfilling, then sort of just sitting in front of the TV night after night, or I had loads of people, I didn’t experience this, but might have missed out socially. But there seems to be like zoom parties going on with people. I think people would like drinking a lot on those on those parties and stuff as though as a sort of way of replacing going to the the pop culture, I guess in in the UK, right. That wasn’t wasn’t going to be good for people’s

Karen Yankovich 6:30
well being will be I think we’ll be dissecting the impact on us of that year for a very, very long time. Right. And because we typically, I mean, hopefully, if you’re running a business, you love what you do, right. So it’s not like a job where you were doing things, maybe you did things you loved, but also probably a lot of things that you just had to do was your responsibility, or other people as you do here, recreate, hopefully, and I think, you know, most of the people that listen to the show are creating things that they love to do. So it’s easy to overwork. So tell us a little bit about wealth, energetics and your journey to be to be, you know, creating the helix method. Tell us a little bit about what that is. And, you know, what brought you to doing this piece of it? Oh,

Louisa Havers 7:14
well. So it kind of goes back to that aspect of you know, how I took my old version of myself over from corporate into into the entrepreneurial land. And when I when I looked back, so you mentioned that my background was in social services. And I remember when I left that I had, and I hadn’t anticipated this, but I did have, when I look back, I realize it was grief. And what I was grieving was actually the loss of the identity that I had, whilst I was working in corporate because and then suddenly being like, Oh, I’ve got this sort of free range. Who am I like, what is my identity,

Karen Yankovich 7:52
such an important statement that you just made? So many people don’t understand that shift and identity that they’re making? When they go from employee to whatever their next step is in their journey? It’s, we’ve never done it before offense. So How the heck are we supposed to know how to do it? Exactly.

Louisa Havers 8:08
And it was something that I hadn’t anticipated that I was going to be sort of hit with. But I really recognized that actually, I’ve got to create my new identity. And really, I’ve got this kind of freedom to really understand more of who I was because I really hid hidden behind the roles of corporate and being really busy, you know, as this this leader in social services, and all the things and of course, it’s one of those things, isn’t it that’s been such a gift of recognizing that the identity that we have, is ultimately how we show up in the world and what we create how we create our reality. So that was like a stepping stone for me in terms of kind of going back and drawing on my psychology background to recognizing Oh, hang on a second, I need to kind of really elevate who I am within my own personal development. And what I started on a journey of really diving into identity work alongside the energy healing aspect, because I discovered that I could feel energy and I’m the kind of person I just love studying I love learning and growing. So I’m always you know, studying new things. And really being able to expand my consciousness and I love to kind of correlate with know who’s doing what across the across the base, because so often people are talking about things and they’re saying it’s some new thing and actually, someone else is talking about it over here, but they’re just calling it different things. Anyway, so my passion is is studying and I love studying or you know, energetics and psychology and all those things. And so as I was learning more and more new new things and had trained in a number of different modalities, and I was experimenting on myself and working with my clients, I really came to understand that when things are working really well and when things are working really well for For for me, and I was getting into that flow state energetically was when I was working on the aspects that I teach within the helix method now, which ultimately is around, which is an energy psychology modality, which is what we do within the helix method is balancing that deep inner healing work that somatic energetic healing work that we need to do so that we’re working across all those different levels of consciousness, really getting into the depth of how the body holds our experiences alongside manifesting ritual so that we’ve got that balance of the of the two and that we are not trying just to kind of do one without the other. And for me, when I really brought the two together, that’s when I saw the greatest shifts more quickly for myself being able to stay in those higher frequencies as elevated frequencies for longer, and for my clients to, because when we’re in that flow state, and things are going really well. Everyone knows that feeling where it’s like, Oh, my God.

Karen Yankovich 10:58
Yes. And then when you’re not in that feeling, it’s just what do I how do I get back there? You’re right, like when you’re in it, you know, you’re in it. And and then when you’re not in it, it’s frustrating. It can be frustrating, I feel like right, because yeah, because then then you will sometimes at least I find that I’m working too hard to get there. And that is the last thing I need to be doing to get there. Right. So it’s

Louisa Havers 11:20
yeah, it’s when it’s when we’re out of that state. And it can be that our default point is so often for so many people is to go right, I’ve got to work harder to get the get the momentum going to get things moving. But if we’re in that space, and we’re not doing the energy work, then our frequency isn’t raised. And so we’re actually trying to kind of push more push matter push things, trying to create from that 3d aspect from the physical plane, rather than I say, allowing our energy to do the heavy lifting for us, of course, we need to carry on taking action on all the things and what’s so beautiful is when we’re in that when we can raise our frequency again. And we’re like, oh, I can feel it happening. We start to see the synchronicities opening up again. And you’re like, yes, I want to stay here. And one of the key aspects I found that’s been really helpful for my clients and I teach this in the in the in the masterclass as well, it’s actually in the master class is around helping people understand that, I think it’s easy to kind of think of it as like three states of energy that we’re in at any one point in time. So we’ve got that flow state, that state that we all want to be in, it’s all you know, that’s where the magic happens. And then we’ve got resistance, energy and reversed energy. And I think it’s just a really helpful concept for people to really understand. So the resistance energy is around, you know, these are the limiting beliefs that we have, like, from an old identity of ours, ourselves, are we trying to create a new version of reality with with these limiting with these beliefs that have become limiting? And then we have and that feels like you’re trying to push, treacle up a hill? No, you’re kind of making progress, but it’s like, oh, this is so sticky. And then we have reversed energy. And this is such a game changer for people because literally your energies reversed. And this can happen when we have experiences along our life path or traumas that we haven’t healed from. And so we’re holding those energetic imprints in our field, and they are weighing us down and taking up some of our energetic space, if you like, that could be more in the flow state. And, and things like you know, from a business perspective, it can be things like if anyone’s face bankruptcy or cashflow issues, that can be very stressful team issues when team members haven’t worked out, or whether it’s sales or you know, all the different aspects that we can have within business, and indeed, aspects that we might have seen with our as growing up as a child with our parents and the businesses that they had. So anywhere, there’s any reverse energy there that can really have a huge impact on people being able to hold that flow state, or when we’re out of it going, Oh, no, I feel like I’ve gone into reverse energy help. How do I, how do I get out of this and get back into that flow state where we can take action without having to work so, so hard?

Karen Yankovich 14:15
You know what that’s I talk to me talk a little bit more about that reverse energy, because I think that that’s an important piece of this because, you know, I can think of a lot of people that I’ve worked with that they can have, like they can check the all of the above button. Right to the to the things you mentioned. So so we know, we know I guess I’m going to say that I’m going to presume this and tell me if I’m wrong. We know when we’re in it when things when we are things are just like no matter what we do, they’re not landing where we want them to land or whatever. Right. But are there are ways to to identify that we’re slipping into it or and then you know, I have 100 questions. We don’t have time for that. But is there like Is there are there things that you do you have to, like, uncover it and, and cry about it and you know, throw some, you know, beat your pillow up or something? Or can it be done? Like, it’s like, tell us a little bit about identifying it so that we know how to learn from it. And we can kind of reverse it, because those are also the things that are the things that probably annoy us the most, right? Like, I cannot believe, you know, my divorce from that person who is is still affecting me. You know, I’m so I feel like I’m so on the other side of it. You know, and I, the last thing I want, is that to be still in the way of my success, right,

Louisa Havers 15:35
exactly.

Karen Yankovich 15:36
So tell us a little bit of how we can, how can we learn a little bit about what those things are, what those triggers might be, and how we deal with them.

Louisa Havers 15:44
So anyone listening, I’m sure, as we’re talking about this people, were you thinking of ideas of wondering if that aspect of their life, maybe they’ve got some reverse energy, they’re like, and you mentioned divorce as well, that’s a huge area that can bring forward create huge energy reversals for people, particularly where there may be, you know, toxic equity, toxic money where, you know, the money’s separated, or there’s money being given for maintenance, and there’s conditions attached to it and all the things and suddenly, we’re kind of rejecting money in one area of our life. But then if we’re doing that over it within our relationships over here, where are we then mirroring it in within our business. And so there it’s it’s a, it’s a beautiful thing as people start to do this, so I can, I can speak to this, because what I want, and I’ve got a guide that people can download that will walk them through how to how to do this. But ultimately, by identifying it through that. So what we do in the helix method, if I just explain that quickly, then people will understand what I’m talking about. So there’s

Karen Yankovich 16:46
a link to the guide, you’ll send us a link to the guide will send you the link. You guys, when you’re watching this just check below you’ll see a link to the guide.

Louisa Havers 16:54
Yes. So this the ability to do this exactly in your own home. So I invite you to do do a high self invocation so that you can align your different levels of consciousness. And that really helps you to drop within and increase your lifeforce energy, so your energy fields expanded out. And then what we do is we do muscle testing with the sway technique, or you can call it energy, kinesiology. And the reason why I like the sway technique. So for those that don’t know it, is you use your body like a dowsing device, which, as you do, it enables you to feel the energy. And I for me, that’s very powerful for people to actually be able to feel their body moving. Typically forwards for a yes. When you ask your body a questions you get a yes or no. To forwards is typically Yes, backwards is typically, you know, there’s all sorts of other things that go on with with the muscle testing as well. But that’s kind of a good starting point for for people right now. Well, I

Karen Yankovich 17:47
can I just want to comment on that I’ve done muscle testing over the years with different people. And, you know, I, I am also a student of energetics and identity. And I’m always listening things but with muscle testing, and we’re doing things like this. I know it to be true, but I didn’t believe it about myself. I was like, I’m forcing this. I know what I answer I want and I’m forcing it. But when I did your Sway thing, I was like, Whoa, you know, I mean, I was like, and I got answers I didn’t expect. And it was really it was the first time that I had ever done muscle testing that I really believed in the results of the muscle testing. And I have you know, I’ve done this with really smart people. So it’s not them. It’s me, just how, how I just couldn’t get it. But for some reason, it was that sway that made a difference for me. And you know, you don’t know that until you try the things right somebody else it might be that the testing like and um, when I do this, it’s like, you know, is it a yes, you can break through? There’s things like that people have done right. So, but I always like kind of felt like, Yeah, I’m making that happen, you know, but with the swaying, I was getting answers I didn’t expect. Which was really cool. Really cool.

Louisa Havers 18:55
Yeah, it really is. It’s, I think it’s the most accurate one for people when we’re talking, because we have to get out of our head to allow the body to sway. And so it’s super powerful. And yeah, I absolutely love it. And this way, when you’re doing this way, when you discover when you ask a question, you have got an energy reversal to it, you’re not going to sway typically forwards yes or no, your Sway is going to start doing something else. Like you might go around in circles, you might lean to the left or to the right, and also other things go on. And so that’s very cool to start to kind of really feel your body respond to that. So what I invite people to do is to you can simply ask questions like, you know, have I got an energy rustle to do that’s preventing me from making 100k This month or you know, whatever the amount is that people are wanting to create in the revenue that they’re wanting to create in their business. And then through a cluster of questions that you can ask, you can drill right down to the root of where this energetic reversal has come and the key for me that really starts to open up for people is as you’re asking these questions and you’re dropped into the, your heart space so that you can allow your body to sway, your body is going to start your subconscious is going to start giving you somatic responses to the question that you’ve asked. So people might suddenly feel a shooting pain and an area of their body. Or they might suddenly get a memory flash across their mind that like, that’s weird. Why am I thinking of my sister doing X, Y, and Zed it’s got nothing to do with this situation? No, it has because it’s just cover up cover up, it’s your body’s your subconscious is is giving you the resources that you need to up to uncover that next piece. So it’s really cool to be able to really recognize the somatic responses as you’re doing that, for me, that’s really key. And then once you’ve identified through the the muscle testing the root, then what we do is through the intention, and breath work and clearing statements, help to command that energetic imprint to shift from your energy field. And then we start to bring in and create what we really want to create. So like weaving a new reality, through into, you know, calling you all you want imprinting successful beliefs, thoughts, emotions, all of the aspects that make up our identity, so that we can really start to embody that and hold that frequency for longer. Does that make sense of that help?

Karen Yankovich 21:30
does? It does make sense. It does make sense. I mean, and I, you know, I as I think as I mentioned, even just even with the muscle testing, it’s until you experience it and start doing it, you know, it’s easy to hear it and process it. But but you need to do it to start to see how it feels on yourself. So that you can kind of get a sense of, of, of what’s going on, right? And what and again, things that you don’t really expect are in the way of things or maybe the things that are triggering, right. So this led you to create the helix method is that were Is that fair to say? Okay, so tell us about that.

Louisa Havers 22:10
Yes, so the helix method, we use a range of techniques within the within the helix method to help people to expand their consciousness and to be able to develop their psychic gifts and to be able to, really, I call it the trifecta of prosperity so that you can heal expand wealth, health and love, because those are the three kind of big aspects that people when we’ve when we’re feeling aligned in all those areas of life, life feels really good. And the ripple effect is there within our businesses, the impact that we’re here to make in the world and across all aspects of life. And so over the last few years with the helix method, it started with, you know, it’s working in this way. And then I had one of my clients reach out. And this is Karen talk about synchronicity. So I had just had a call with my coach and I, we actually written down, you know, as a Monday nights, and I’ve had a call and I’ve written down, okay, right, launch my certification program, starting in September, and then I woke up in the morning, there was an email from a client going, do you teach people how to do what you do? Because I’m looking

Karen Yankovich 23:20
at? Of course you did, right.

Louisa Havers 23:24
And I was like, well, there’s a kind of sign that there’s a Yeah, I

Karen Yankovich 23:26
talked about flow, right. There’s, there’s an example flow

Louisa Havers 23:31
that exactly, it’s I was like, Whoa, this is amazing, you know, and, of course, it didn’t have a name at that point, you know, because it was just been in the sense of how I’ve been working with my clients and you know, within our programs and things. And so that started with you know, we launched we launched as a certification program and that was a couple of years ago now. So it’s been a privilege to be teaching other people how to go deeper with their clients by being able to certify in the in the helix method and and so there’s there’s many aspects to it because there’s so much that you can do you know, the muscle testing the energy, kinesiology that we do within the helix method is just one one of the cool techniques that we use alongside the manifesting ritual that I teach within the within the within the master class that you experienced. But yes, I absolutely love i love it i Lead with with wealth because I love helping people to heal their their money storing and to expand their wealth, consciousness

Karen Yankovich 24:34
and wealth does feed some of the other things right? We can pretend it doesn’t. But you know, even like certainly here in the US, you know, wealth makes a difference in your health. If you you know, health insurance is expensive, doctors are not accepting insurance, you know, so having the cash to be able to, to, you know, join the gym, take the yoga classes, buy a peloton, whatever it is that you need to do to stay healthy, right? So I Think I think that yeah, I think and it feeds the other it feeds. It certainly feeds help. I don’t know about love, but it certainly feeds help.

Louisa Havers 25:06
Yeah, absolutely. Because also, if we think about what, uh, one of the biggest stresses for people in life, that impact their health, it is money, you know, in the sense of where people are, you know, can have very successful businesses go out of business. And that’s gonna have a huge impact, actually, not only on one person’s health, you know, the CEOs health in terms of the stress possible sleepless nights, their adrenals going out of whack all those things, but also family relationships and things because, you know, when people are feeling stressed, they might not be so peaceful at home. So it does have your, you know, it does have that knock on effect across everybody. And when we’re in the flow state, and we’re feeling really good about money and expanding money and all those things, then we can we feel that, you know, our health is impacted as well. And we can feel really generous in our relationships in terms of time, and, and the the expansion of love that we have as well.

Karen Yankovich 26:06
Right. Right. So so the helix method combines modalities for all for that. What did you call it a triangle? Oh,

Louisa Havers 26:16
the trifecta of prosperity? Prosperity. Okay.

Karen Yankovich 26:20
Interesting. Do you incorporate that into everything you do? Or is that a specific program that you teach? Or both?

Louisa Havers 26:27
Yeah, so I actually have so I’ve got the the wealth portal issue, which is where we focus on the money side of things, then I have the body, the body, a limited edition, I call it where we focus on health aspects. And then we have the love codes where we focus on the relationship. And then we’ve also got the certification program for those that are like, you know, what, I want to go deeper with my clients and to be able to take those programs themselves and lead their clients, their clients through it. So we’ve got to be full pathway for people to be able to go on go on the journey, you know, for that, so they can pick, pick the components that they want to want want to focus on. And what I found time and time again, is as people are changing their energy and elevating their consciousness, and it’s just so beautiful, how more intuitive people are. It really awakens that even people who are already really intuitive, it kind of gets ramped up again. Yeah.

Karen Yankovich 27:26
Oh, I love that. I love that. So, you know, just before we came on here, and I think that that I want to make sure we touched on this topic, because i i And we’re definitely going to have you share links to the work that you’re doing, because I know my listeners are going to want to check you out. But we were talking about the fact that, you know, we’re recording this, it’s March the end of March 2024. And there’s a shift this year that I’ve never seen before, in at least the decade or plus that I’ve been doing this work. And more than ever, I’ve seen the wealth piece get in the way. And meaning that more than ever, I’ve seen people closing up their businesses and either going back to corporate taking a job retiring, whatever, but I don’t necessarily think it was a planned, organized thing. Right? I think that there was struggle, we’re seeing more and more people struggling people struggling, do I need to do high ticket? Should I be doing low ticket? Are ads working anymore? Right. So there’s a shift happening in the market. And I think, you know, the strategies that I teach are really very relationship focused. And I think that still works. So you know, so we’re doubling down on that. But I wanted to mention that because I if you’re experiencing this, you’re not alone. You know, and we’ve talked earlier, before we turn the camera on that, you know, it was almost like the elephant in the room, right? People are still pretending to be successful or pretending to have this, you know, just pretending to continue to move forward with their businesses. But behind the scenes, it’s a little bit of a shit show. And I’m not gonna lie, we’ve changed a lot of things up ourselves because of that the things we used to do. I did a thing this year that I hadn’t done in like eight years. And it was just a silly little marketing thing, right? But eight years ago, when I did it, I remember, I mean, my list was 1/10 the size it is now. Right. And I remember having stacks of paper on my desk and like going through them saying, Alright, who am I doing this with? And who am I not? We had two responses this year. You know what I mean? And this is with a list 10 times the size with it. So things are shifting. And I think as marketers, because I certainly am a marketer, I know you’re a marketer, and many of the people listening to the show are marketers, we need to be paying attention, right? So so tell me a little bit about what you’re seeing about that in the end, you know, from an energetic and also just from a practical standpoint. Oh,

Louisa Havers 29:47
yes, huge. I’m definitely seeing that as well. And what I’m what I’m recognizing is that people are acquiring more nurturing before they’re saying yes, so the sales cycle is longer if that makes sense. Or People are stepping in because of either they’ve had they’ve got burnt along the way, with perhaps investing in things that haven’t delivered. They’ve got stuff going on in their own business where cash flow isn’t, isn’t what it was because of this extension in sales cycle before people are saying saying, yes, the impact of taxes going up. Certainly that’s been in the UK, I don’t know what’s happening elsewhere in the world, whether taxes have been affecting for other people in the different countries that they’re in. So I think there’s a number of different squeeze points that are coming in for for business owners. And of course, as creatives we get, if we’re listening to what’s going on in the market, then we need to pivot and adapt to be able to go and say, Okay, hang on what was working, isn’t working anymore. So I now need to be able to use this breadth of skills that I’ve developed, and to be able to apply those principles that you teach carrying around relationships, and apply building relationships, because in a new way, because ultimately, business comes down to relationships, we work with people that we know, like, and trust that has stood the test of time. Of course, we you know, that what the gift of working in the online space is that it the we’ve kind of collapsed the timeline, so to speak, for being able to get to know like contrast people through video, and, and all those things. And I think what we’re seeing is a little caution coming in for people as they are, as the market has matured. And there are more people out there. And also, I think what we’re also seeing is a portion of people who may have come into the online space, whilst they’re in the pandemic, recognizing that perhaps it’s not for them, and closing. Because if you think of it, it’s kind of like, where are we 2020 for three years, you know, that sort of cycle, isn’t it of people going actually have grown the business sob this, this isn’t, this isn’t for me. So there’s kind of those sort of practical aspects of it. And then what I’m recognizing as well, from an energetic point of this, all of this is hugely stressful for people who are going through that hang on, I’m giving my business because of whatever the reason is, if it’s cash flow, if it’s actually they’ve realized they’ve got a business that, you know, didn’t give them the freedom that they thought they wanted, or, you know, sometimes we try trying new aspects in our business. And we like to actually, it’s, it’s not, it’s not for me, and that and that’s okay. But there will be reversed energy around this for for people and, and that’s for me is being able to help people go right, let’s clear all the stuff where we’re holding some trauma, even if we’re telling ourselves because we can rationalize can’t wait and tell ourselves a really good story about X, Y, and Zed. But it’s really important to go into the heart and to really recognize Hang on, how is the body experiencing all of this so that you can make sure that we’re not taking any of that, that trauma into whatever the next project is. And if there is cash flow in your business, to be able to transmute that energy so that you can free the energy up so you can start to allow things to feel easier. And to be able to go okay, do you know what? All parts of success have peaks and troughs that if there is a trough, it’s a data point in time, because the thing I see is, we shame on ourselves so much when things aren’t in flow, rather than saying, You know what, the business is just feeling a bit sticky right now. And I need to refocus. It’s not like it means anything about ourselves worth but we’re very good at when we’re in a quiet corner on our own just to start to kind of the nervous system or start running these stories through through our consciousness. And then before we know it, we might have you know, might be believing the thoughts that we’re thinking. Right, right.

Karen Yankovich 34:15
So so if I’m listening to this conversation, and I’m self identifying with a lot of the things we’ve talked about today what’s the first step to identifying these this reverse energetic shift? Yeah,

Louisa Havers 34:30
okay. So I would download my guide so this can this can go step by step. It’s all there for you. And then I would identify Okay, so what’s going on in my current reality, what am I seeing because it’s an internal internal reflection of how I’m how I’m feeling inside and then use that as a starting point. So it’s like Have I got an energy reversal to do with XYZ, whatever the thing is, and and to do this way technique to To identify it so that you can feel it in your body that will be super powerful. And then to follow my guidance in the in the, in the workbook that I’ll give you in the guide, so that you can start to change it and then by all means, come to our next masterclass because I go through it, I’ll be there to answer any questions, I can help you with anything that’s kind of feeling sticky. And so we can start to change the energy so that you can start to be like, You know what I’m feeling like off you’ll feel more relieved, your your frequency is getting raised, and only good things are gonna come from come from that.

Karen Yankovich 35:32
How often do you do the masterclass?

Louisa Havers 35:34
I do them every six to eight weeks.

Karen Yankovich 35:36
Okay, okay, good. It was great. It really was you really way over delivered in that it was awesome. I highly recommend everybody register for that. And we’ll put all the links to all of this in there. Okay. So, in addition to all of this amazing complimentary stuff that you have out there, how do you how do you work with people.

Louisa Havers 35:54
So I have my group programs, I’ve got the wealth portal, which is our four month wealth energetics program. So people come in to expand their wealth consciousness. And our intention is that they have a breakthrough in their the money that was coming in within the next 60 days or less. So that’s our goal. It’s super fun. And so people can, you know, inquire about that to if they’re looking to expand their wealth consciousness. And we’ve got the body which we run sort of once a year. And people can come into that, where we really focus on what’s going on in the in the body. And for any deep trauma work that people are wanting to work through. We’ve got the love codes, we’ll be running that in June, live, which will be focusing around our relationship with ourselves and our relationship with with others, to perfect people wanting to heal aspects of relationship, whether it’s in work or family members, or calling in the one even it could be, could be four. And then of course they work, you know, I have private clients as well at one to one with with clients. And you know, I will create bespoke packages for people with my private clients.

Karen Yankovich 37:03
Amazing, amazing. Well, I love the work that you do. And I’m glad that you’re in my life. And I look forward to seeing what else you’ve got going on in this upcoming year. And I’m a fan. And I think you’re gonna get a lot of new fans this week. So thank you so much for being here. If you’re listening today, and this has resonated with you, then you know what I want, right? I want you to take a quick screenshot of this and share it on your social media tag me tag Louisa, because we will then share it with our audience. And we’ve mentioned on the show the importance of that building relationships that you know, people understand and getting to really know like, and, and, and know, like and trust you. And a lot of that comes from this, right? Like if you met Louisa somewhere, I don’t know on the street, you may not you may, she said she told you some of the stuff you might be like, okay, but I you know, hopefully, you know, like, and trust me, because you’re listening, I’m asking you to know, like and trust her. So this is how we all lift each other up. And this is how we all start to get through whatever’s energetically going on this year or whatever is changing and marketing, right. It’s just shifts in marketing. And honestly, that’s why I do what I do. Because I feel like what we teach here, and she’s linked up and Karen Yankovich Land is good old fashioned marketing. It’s worked for 100 years, it’s gonna work for another 100 year it’s on algorithm dependent, or anything like that, right. So. So when you share this, this is how we all support each other, and how we all get to move to move forward. If you want to know more about what it looks like to work with us. There’s links on this page as well or go to Karen yankovich.com/call book a call on our calendar. And we can talk about what it looks like to get some support with some of your LinkedIn and PR strategy so that you know how to start to build these relationships, right that good old fashioned marketing stuff that works. And it’s not spam your network I promise you it’s not spam your network it is get to know people, right and in a micro targeted way. So just like I got to know Louisa over this year, so I look forward to seeing what’s next in the in our future. Louisa. I think there’s more to come. And thank you so much for being here today.

Louisa Havers 39:11
Oh, thank you so much for having me. It’s been a real treat. And I’m so excited to connect with everybody as well. So thank you looking forward to meeting meeting everywhere. Okay, so

Karen Yankovich 39:20
we’ll see you back here again next week for another episode.