265 – Elevating Women’s Priorities: Insights from Jillian Lambert

Karen Yankovich 0:00
Hello, hello, everyone. I’m your host, Karen Yankovich. And this is episode 265 of the good girls get rich podcast. And I am here today with Jillian Lambert. And I’ll tell you about Jillian in a minute. But I want to just just kind of speak, we’re still celebrating that we’re still putting these these episodes out on audio and videos. If you’re used to listening to this on whatever your favorite podcast player is, no, you can go on over to YouTube and listen to this now as well. All the links are wherever you’re watching this. So you can you can get to that there. So it’s been a little fun. And it’s been a little of a journey for me to shift this over. You would think this would be a simple thing. But it was a little more complicated than I wanted it to be. But here we are. Yeah, so I’m excited to jump in with Gillian Gillian was Julie and I and I both work with the same admin person like we she introduced us to each other, right. And as many of you know, have heard of D detailer who I adore, and she’s like, You need to meet my client, Jillian and I met Jullian. I’m like, oh, I need to, you need to be on my show. So I’m excited to have her here today. Jillian is a seasoned facilitator, with a unique blend of hard earned wisdom and refined skills accumulated over 36 years, with a distinguished 16 year corporate career in various human resources, executive roles, and an inspiring 22 year spiritual journey. She skillfully integrates masculine and feminine energies in all that she offers you guys understand why I wanted to have her here. Jillian holds former HR qualifications and is a certified Enneagram assessor, near Black Belt teacher and global facilitator. Her lifelong passion for cultivating a centered life resonates in all her endeavors, from corporate boardrooms, to intimate kitchen table gatherings. Julian’s depth of expertise and insights lay the foundation for transformation, transformative experiences guiding individuals towards personal growth in a sustainable and centered space. And I want to hear about all those things. Jillian, I’m so happy to have you here today.

Jillian Lambert 1:51
It’s such an honor to be here. I am really looking forward to chatting.

Karen Yankovich 1:57
Yeah, I feel like we have a lot of alignment in you know, starting in corporate and, and also the 22 year spiritual journey and just how that all into intertwines right into where we are today, you know, I don’t lead with the fact that, you know, I am a Reiki Master and I’m certified in dream coaching. But it is infused into everything I do. Right. And it is. It’s not something I do any anymore at all separately, but how can it not be infused into everything I do, right? So. And you know, what, like, 22 years ago, it wasn’t as, as baked in to our culture as it is today. Right? It was what really I remember when I first got Reiki certified. My kids were like, what is that? I’m like, it’s like the force, like, you know, like, Star Wars fans. Like it’s like the force, you have to just, you know, you just have to do you have to like learn to master the force, you know, because nobody even heard of it then. Right? Yeah. So tell me about your journey. Like I know, we heard the formal version of it. But what brought you from human resources to what you’re doing today. And then let’s talk about what you’re doing today. But what tell us a little bit about your journey.

Jillian Lambert 3:08
So I’m South African born and bred, and I was raised in a traditional middle class family and so many people that have been raised in the to me, maybe your audience will relate. Some people will relate to that where you raised you go through school, they need to get an education and you need to get a job. That’s what you do, rather than you retire. That’s that was the trajectory that I was born in. Yeah, I know, no reason to question it. So I went forth and did that. And then I moved really quickly through my corporate career, I never got married, I chose not to get married. And I chose to focus on my corporate career, because that’s what I thought I’m supposed to be doing. Right? That’s ticking the box. And then at the young age of 36, I was a director of one of the multinational companies that came to from the states to South Africa. And I was sitting in this huge office in this corner office, you know, as you had as a director, in those days, this big desk or this big chair, I felt a little bit like Goldilocks, like completely out of place. Everything was too big. I’m quite a small person. So everything was too big. And I knew that something was missing, ticked all these boxes, but I had this deep emptiness in me. And I don’t know if you can relate to that of anyone in the audience can relate to that where I was working hard. I was doing everything I need to be doing. I was getting accolades, and yet, it just was empty. I wasn’t satiated at all. And I decided then to take a leap. And I resigned, and I resigned to nothing. I didn’t have anything planned. And I just had no feeling that there was more so I jumped, and I left moved back down to Cape Town. Yeah. Wow.

Karen Yankovich 4:58
So what did you do?

Jillian Lambert 5:00
I spent the first year thank goodness for friends, I spent the first year working for a friend who had manufactured bedlinen. And I worked in her factory and kept myself busy and earned a tuppence of what I was getting in my previous role. And that took that year just to really, I guess, connect back to me as best as I could and go like, Well, what do I want to do? And then things started to unfold. Because of my experience, people started to ask me for advice on human resources in their businesses. So I started to consult and I started to create my HR business from there. And at the same time, my, I guess my spiritual inquiry into life began as well.

Karen Yankovich 5:42
Okay, okay, well, so what did that look like?

Jillian Lambert 5:47
Well, the portable, if I could call it that was yoga. And I had been, I’ve been doing yoga in my corporate career, because I had been told by my coach that I needed to have balanced, so I went off and did yoga. And because I’m very flexible, I could get away with being in class and doing all the moves without anyone thinking that I actually wasn’t present in class. So when I left corporate, I decided that I would really deepen my yoga practice, like, proper, like, do it properly. And I found the teacher close by to me. And that’s where I dived in. And I started to delve into the differential, the GIL that was on the yoga mat that didn’t have to be in a board meeting and doesn’t have to produce results. And who was out then if I wasn’t that.

Karen Yankovich 6:41
Right. Right. And then

Jillian Lambert 6:44
and then the journey began. And I think I mentioned to this to you, when I chatted earlier I chatted previously was I then went to Greece that following year, for the first time. And that was the real first time I went and I started to claim back these pieces of who I was, like the little jelly, the financially, the carefree Joe. And slowly but surely claimed those little pieces like mercury coming back together into the collective. Yeah.

Karen Yankovich 7:17
Cool. So eventually, you kind of spun a business around this right? You were so so how would you describe that, like, as you started to step back into the business world, because I feel like this is a journey. I know, I can relate to some of it. I never had the courage to just walk away from something, but because it takes a lot of courage and confidence in yourself, right? Proposal, I’m sure some planning and pre planning and, you know, having the resources to be able to do that, too. So when you started to work your way back into the business, what did you do?

Jillian Lambert 7:51
Well, I started with the mainstream traditional human resource stuff, because that was safe. It was easy. I knew it like the back of my hand, and I could make money, which was the most important thing that I needed to get an outcome. So I started to do that. And I built a business up I did consulting for various companies. And then from there, what I what I would say that that would be the transactional human resource stuff. So onboarding, recruitment policies, that sort of stuff in a bundle. And after a couple of years after sitting and learning practices and starting to meditate, I actually, I guess, the turning point now that you asked me this question is when I started to work with Estee Lauder, and Estee Lauder had a group of women only basically in their organization, and I started to work with women in business. And then things started to change around creating lifework balance. How do I bring my whole self to work when I have a family at home? Or how do I navigate this duality of being a leader and still being compassionate. So those elements started to come into what I was offering, and I started to blend them more and more in my training and my coaching and my team build facilitations in working with entrepreneurs and doing workshops with on top and yours, I started to build in much more of a balanced, I would say, set of skills, rather than it being purely transactionally focused. So there was a lot about helping people learn how to become an authentic, vulnerable, compassionate leader. That doesn’t make you weak. It makes you stronger, actually.

Karen Yankovich 9:40
Right. Exactly. Exactly. And you know what it takes that takes confidence, right? It takes confidence to understand that, that being able to say I’m not sure let me check it out. Or I can’t because of this that takes confidence right? So yeah, I love that you do talk about the the masculine and feminine feminine of all of us. because it can be it is always blended. Right. But it’s just a matter of having that confidence to be okay with that. Right. And, and, yeah, you know, something that somebody the women that I talked to and I know that listen to this that listen or not watch the show. If so they’re so brilliant. They’ve such expertise and they’ve got, you know, years of this, but yet there’s just roadblock, there’s these blocks in the way I’ve needed to be like this, or I need to be like that. Like, it was interesting when you said I ticked all the boxes. So I didn’t get married, and I dove into my corporate job. And here I was, like, I ticked all the boxes. I got married and had kids, you know what I mean? Like, so there’s, it’s interesting how everybody’s boxes are a little different, too. But, but what we’re doing is good. Maybe not for the right reasons. Right. Not that I for one second regret my kids. But but it’s it’s it. You know, this Donald’s on for the right for? I don’t know, I guess there’s there’s no right or wrong reasons. Right. But it was it’s being having the space. I feel like, I feel like what the spirituality does with all of this is it gives you the quiet of mind to kind of be more intentional about the choices that yes, yeah,

Jillian Lambert 11:09
exactly. Anyway, and I totally agree. There’s no, I don’t think there’s right and wrong. And I do my best to stay away from from that kind of vocabulary, even when I’m coaching and someone was like, Did I do the wrong thing? Or have I chosen the wrong decision. And it’s, it’s never about right and wrong, ever. It’s always about what pulled you and diving into that. And the more we do that, the more we can understand how we operate. Each of us are so unique, we so absolutely unique. And we know this scientifically, from our fingerprints and from our DNA. And we want to be we want to be like the power my gosh, it’s so true. And it’s like just be you. You magnificent. Just be you and do you. That’s all you got to do. And as soon as we move away from that, as soon as we move away from how am I supposed to be doing this, whether you’re parenting, whether you’ve been a wife, or whether you’ve been a partner, whether you’ve been a business owner, there’s no book written on the perfect model, right? You just be you. That’s the perfect model and follow that intuition. And I think that’s where that spirituality and I guess business sense merge them, because, of course, they’re business principles that make good business practices. And at the same time, there’s an opportunity for every single person to bring their uniqueness no matter what that is, no matter what they do.

Karen Yankovich 12:40
So I think, thank goodness. Right. And thank goodness. Yeah. So you’re still doing some of this corporate work, right? You still do work with corporations. But you also have you also stepping into a new? Or maybe it’s not new for you, but you stepped into another line of business. Right? So tell us a little bit about that.

Jillian Lambert 13:00
So I do, yes, so the corporate business is still very much there. And I work a lot now with boards and executives and teams around this kind of philosophy, to deepen trust, so that they can navigate more authentically the business world and more sustainably. And then, since 2011, my sister and I have been taking groups to Greece, the place that I went to, in 2005, to start unexpectedly claiming myself back, we started to as a side hustle for lack of a better word, take groups to Greece, I served as a yoga teacher, I do. I’m a near teacher, and we both have a toolbox of experience of modalities. And from last year, we decided to really notch this app and for it to become a real adult business. And because of that, now, we launching three retreats next year, we’ll still do Greece, Greece is our signature trip. And we do local retreats here in South Africa as well. So we will continue to do that. But we have taken it to the next level in terms of what we offering.

Karen Yankovich 14:08
So like tell us about the retreats, what are the intention of the of the retreats.

Jillian Lambert 14:14
So the intention across all three retreats next year, the commonality of it,

Karen Yankovich 14:21
and when you say next year, just in case, you’re listening to this in future, we’re talking about 2024?

Jillian Lambert 14:28
Thank you. Yes. So our intention for 2020 For retreats across all three of them. The commonality is we create a safe space for the participants to create space for themselves. And what we mean by that is, we’ll meet you wherever you at. There’s no There’s no entry requirements. So we meet you wherever you’re at whether you are a mom that is absolutely exhausted and just need to just sleep or whether you’re a business executive that needs face to think or whether you anything In between there just wants to have a good holiday, it’s organized well, where you can do what you want to do. That’s what we do we create a safe space for you to show up authentically with where you’re at. That’s number one. Number two is, yeah, number two is we have a framework or three, and each, each of them has a slightly different theme. And in there, we follow the motto of staying focused with the essence and free on the form. So we do not have an itinerary that gets eight o’clock on the bus, nine o’clock swimming tennis, we do not do that we create an organic space, we will do movement every day, that we can guarantee you and we offer that movement to all levels of a human being fitness and mobility. And in between that we then navigate what the group needs are, and we’ll do our teams or we’ll do workshops, or we’ll play in between so that runs across all the work we do those emphasis, the exciting thing for next year, and I know this is predominantly a woman’s show. But the exciting thing for next year is we offering space in the first retreat for people to come that are men and woman.

Karen Yankovich 16:17
Oh, that’s fine. Yeah, that’s exciting. Yeah, and

Jillian Lambert 16:21
the reason why we doing that is because we’ve done this for so many years, and we’ve had goddesses come a woman come four or five times, and they like, please get that come out with my partner and do something where I can share this joy of being in a Greek village with them. So the first one is a mixed gender. It’s called a taste of grease. And that’s exciting, it’s adventurous, it’s fun, it’s pretty light, we will do daily movements, and we’ll drop seeds of spirituality in but it’s not going to be very deep, and very focused on journey work, it’s going to be quite light. And then the second one is called awakening the Goddess within. And this is one for women who are wanting time and space to do an inner journey. And in there, we still go for outings. And we still have fun. And if you want to sip cocktails, at sunset, we still do all of that. And at the same time, we offer tools and practices where you can do some introspection, and go, where am I? What’s calling me? What do I need to heal? What has been asked of me. And that’s those two are both in Greece. And then the third one’s called nurturing the Goddess within and that one’s in Portugal. And the theme for that one, again, is for a woman who wants to dive deeper into understanding how they are in relationship with others. So it’s very much about nurturing the person in order for you to show up better in inverted commas in your relationships with friends, family, client, just, etc. Yeah, so they, there’s a thread that runs through all three of them. And then there’s a different focus for people that are looking for different things right now.

Karen Yankovich 18:10
Yeah, I you know what, it’s so interesting. You know, of course, as we’re moving into 2024, we’re coming out of years where we couldn’t travel to Greece and things like that. So how did that impact like debt? You know, so from the business perspective, right, you’ve got this business, this corporate business, but then and then this side hustle, would you call it but it also sounds like really a passion business as well. But hopefully a profitable one. Tell us a little bit about that journey was, you know, how did you manage the retreat business when people couldn’t leave their house, nevermind their state?

Jillian Lambert 18:43
So what we did is we have, we have just under 90 women that have joined us over the last Wow, top 15 Or how many weeks 23. From 2011. to Now, we’ve had about we’ve got 89 People actually that have joined us some once and some five times. So what we did when COVID hits is we obviously couldn’t do the retreat for us in South Africa. It affected us for 20 and 21, those two years. So what we did for our inner group, is that we did online events where we did a reunion online, we did workshop online, we connected online. And then both my sister and I started to do a lot more online work. So she took her yoga and who are you being acknowledged online? And I took my toolbox of wisdom online, whether its authenticity immersions, or behavior styles assessments. We actually just we just went online with the things we would do, you know, we kind of separated them out and made these smaller accessible modules, which is turned now into both of us continued business.

Karen Yankovich 19:54
Oh, great. It’s awesome. Well, it’s global,

Jillian Lambert 19:56
you know, global audience which is perfect. asked

Karen Yankovich 20:00
to Who are these retreats most suited for?

Jillian Lambert 20:04
So I would say that our main audience, our woman, except for that first week in Greece next year, are mainly women between the ages of 35. And up. So we’ve had women that are in their 70s come to Greece with us. And I would say they for women that are seeking a pathway to deepen their authenticity is the one area so we really have this yearning when people come they really want to understand who they are, and are often quote, There was a movie called Runaway Bride, I don’t know if you’ve ever watched it with Yes. And my famous my favorite favorite line of that movie that talks into this is right at the end, I think she got married three times or something. And right at the egg was right at the end was this, this clip around her finally trying to figure out how she likes her eggs in the morning, right? Because she had always just done it the way he wanted them. And I always say, Come and find out how you like your eggs, basically.

Karen Yankovich 21:13
Oh, my gosh, that’s amazing. You know, and can I just tell you this, I can still relate to that. And I think I’m sure many of the people listening are. And I’m thinking about, you know, which is one of the things I love about you offering this is that, you know, so many I hope, more women, I mean, my mission is for more women to to get clear on how they can support themselves, right. But even like my, you know, there’s never I feel like it’s always a journey. And even myself, like I am participating in something this year. That is so and I’ve committed is solely for my personal growth, but not my business growth, not my family, not whatever. And as I kind of felt into it to see, okay, do I want to do this or not? The feeling that I was feeling was completely not recognizable to me. And I was like, well, that’s not good. Do you know what I mean? If I don’t, even if I don’t even recognize this feeling of doing something just for myself, then all this is, you know, that is and you know, we need to change that, but it needs to change. So, you know, we see this, and I you know, I mean, my entire business is around supporting women not necessarily as much in their self journey, but in more in their business journey. But still, that’s it, I believe, solely that the work that I’m doing on myself is going to also support my business and my family and all the people and we’ve know this, I’ve probably said this 100 times, you know, put your mask on first on the plane, like we we intellectually know this, but making the space and the time and the investment for it. It just doesn’t happen. And I don’t know why that is so. So do you find that to be a challenge? Do you find that there’s women that are just such a perfect fit? And so in need of this, but are have a hard time making that decision to say yes,

Jillian Lambert 23:00
very much. So spot on. And it’s one of my favorite quotes that I that I use in my coaching as well is, can you disappoint others to be true to yourself. And that was one of my, what’s been one of my mantras my whole life. And what I’ve found, what I find is the generic and this is this will change depending on societies and communities and woman are, but I I’m going to generalize, which I don’t do often. But generally, because of how life has unfolded over the many, many centuries that we’ve existed in it. Women haven’t had the luxury of being on top of the list to make their choice first, we haven’t. Right, we have had to be second. We will you know, we all the way through to not voting all the way through all the way through to patriarchy. I’m not going to get into any of those debates.

Karen Yankovich 23:54
No, and I agree with you. And I honestly, and I watched that play out with people I know, during the pandemic, who they believe themselves to be and I believe them to be more awakened and feminist and I watched it happen where, you know, men had an office and got to close the door because they had to go to work. And women were taking their laptop in the car with them to finish their zoom call while they were driving their kid to school. You know what I mean? or to the right, like for some I watched it happen. And I was like, How is this still happening? And I know these people and I know that if I pointed it out to them, they would be a little blown away by it. Right. But yeah, it’s we’re still doing it. But

Jillian Lambert 24:34
um, yeah, that is the first answer to the question because that is and that is implicit and unconscious most of the time, all the way through. I mean, I can give you the example of and my sister won’t mind me sharing this because it’s part of the story of how we ended up doing our first retreat, but she had two youngsters, two young children at the time, and I called her from Greece in 2010. And I said, I’ve been called from powers above To do a retreat in Greece next year, and I need you to come and do the yoga and she did you crazy, I can’t, I just can’t. It’s impossible. Right? And I wiggled them found my way through it. And eventually, I got her to come by me, the only way I got it to come was to say to her and convince her that it was work. And she had to come because it was work, right? And then no other circumstances could that change happen in your brain in terms of, oh my God, how can I leave my children and what my partner say. And she went through Strife for years for making that choice of putting herself in that position. And this is the reality, when I have info sessions, like we do in an info session tomorrow night, and people come on the call, and I can guarantee it’s gonna happen again, tomorrow, when people say, it sounds wonderful, and it’s lovely, but I just can’t come. And when you dive into that, I just can’t come. It’s not about the money. And it’s not about the time it’s about, I don’t deserve to give this to myself. Right. So that’s, that’s the rule. Right? And when you coaching woman and business, the reason why this is so important, and you add would be interesting, if you find this is that when a woman comes to you and says I’ve got this product, and this is who I am, and this is what I’m doing. If there’s not complete alignment to her authenticity, the success rate will be different, I see that in the woman that I work with is that if they’re not aligning completely to who they are and what they offer, then it shows up energetically. But it’s this default, I don’t deserve this, I’ve got to be here for the children. And I’ve got to be here for my husband or my partner. And I’ve got to be here for the business. I started and, and I’m on number 5678 or nine on the list. That’s what it is. And we’ve got to get ourselves to the top of the list.

Karen Yankovich 26:47
Yes, yes. And it changes everything. So okay, so there’s, I’m sure there’s people, I hope I know this people are sitting going, I’d love that. And hopefully, so we’re gonna let them know, there’ll be links all over the place, and how you can connect with Julian and find out more about these retreats. But what about the people that truly just are not in a place right now? Where they can come to Greece or South Africa? Do you do anything? Virtually?

Jillian Lambert 27:07
Yes. So there’s, there’s a range of options virtually. There’s a couple of free options that I do. The one is the standard New Moon intention setting session, I do every new moon and it’s online. And you don’t have to have a video, you just it’s a 45 minutes for yourself. And I do that in the evenings in South Africa. So I think for a lot of your audience, which should work the next

Karen Yankovich 27:33
day in here in New Jersey, in the US. So that how people find out about those.

Jillian Lambert 27:38
Those are all on my website, Julie Lambert’s dot co.za is my website, there’s all on there. And then I’m going to be launching my calendar for next year where there’s a variety of other things that will suit time and budget. So that’s everything from I do 21 Day journeys, in the beginning of the year, I do a healthy habits journey. And that’s great, we have a global community, it doesn’t take a lot of time and energy, that’s a free offering I give. And then people get to know me. And if they like me, then they can start journeying with me on different things. So you don’t have to be able to fly to Greece or Portugal, have a look at my website, see what calls you reach out to me, Are there lots of different options that you can join me in on a online platform,

Karen Yankovich 28:24
and you have a gift for our listeners for those online? Work? I do not tell us about that.

Jillian Lambert 28:30
So because you’re so far away, and I doubt you’ll be flying to South Africa in the near future. I’m happy to offer all your listeners the 30% of my paid offerings for next year that are online. So my online offerings, which are unfolding when the calendar comes up, feel free to use the code that you’re going to share just now. And you can get 30% any of those. So whether it’s a one day workshop, or whether it’s a weekend retreat online, or whether it’s a five day immersion, the different offerings that will be coming up that you can choose from, and the

Karen Yankovich 29:04
code you would use as Karen why so use the code Karen, why to get that 30% discount, which is awesome, which is awesome. And honestly, I think that everybody needs to do this everybody that listens, you know, certainly listen, you know, my entire business really is lifting women up and wanting there to be more wealthy women in the world because I think women with money can change the world and they can make choices like I’m going to Greece and I’m going to pay somebody to bring food into my family for the week while I’m in Greece. Right? So whatever whatever that is that’s holding them back. So I you know, at the heart of all of that though, is are you are you feeling supported? So I want to just talk for one minute about our our program or she’s linked up accelerator program is the program that is the it’s the place to get going in our program because we fully support women to learn how to step into these new identities. So many of the women And listening to the show and that we support are really reinventing themselves to post pandemic, just as they step into their new chapter. And we want to help them not just reinvent themselves, but rise up while they’re doing that and, and know that there all of this is there for them. Right if they can, and it’s not just about, you know, I give them strategies all day long, you can give them strategies all day long, but the strategies alone are going to just keep them stuck, right? Like look behind me, I got 50,000 books in my house and if books changed my thought my life I wouldn’t need another one. Right? It’s the it’s the one too it’s the talking to people is the energy work is the energetics is the the vibe that surrounds you that that changes everything and retreats like Jillian offers and programs like our she’s linked up accelerator program, are the kinds of things where these are groups of women that are committed to doing this. And do we get together? Right? Do we get together and not being like a feeling like a lone wolf or not feeling like, they don’t know where to get started, we know how to help you get started. So if you want to know what that looks like, just go on over to Karen yankovich.com/call. Again, all these links are in all the notes, wherever you’re listening or watching to this. Just go on over to Karen yankovich.com/call. And you can grab a spot and you get to hang out with people and D our mutual beautiful, amazing person is the first person you meet because she supports all of our, our clients in our on our students in just making sure that they are DS whole role in my business is to make my clients happy. Like that’s it. Yeah, that’s what she does. Yeah, because so many women are not going to ask for that help. So we like proactively make sure they’re getting the support that they need. So Jillian, thank you so much for being here today and doing this with me. I will put links to all of this definitely you want to connect with Gillian, we’ve got you know, her her, her stuff, her her social media links and everything in the show notes you want to connect with her. I’m definitely gonna check some of this stuff out because I think it sounds amazing. And, you know, if you loved what you hear today heard today, I would love for you to take a quick screenshot of what you’re listening to share it on social media, tag me tag, Jillian, you know, we’ll support you like we’re here to support women, right? So, so share this with your network so that we can share your posts with our networks. And everybody gets more juice from that everybody just gets more lovin from that, right? So I would love for you to do that. You know, if you love what you hear heard today, we love your reviews, wherever you’re listening to this, follow the show on Apple podcasts or wherever you’re listening. Now that we’re on YouTube did hit the little bell and get follow us on YouTube so you don’t miss an episode. And know that if there’s also a link in in the show notes, to speak pipe where you can leave me an audio message it you know as much as I love this, the one of the reasons we’ve moved to video and audio is because I feel like it’s a little bit more, it’s a little bit less me feeling like I’m talking at you. I know that I still am talking at you, right? But I feel a little bit less like I’m speaking with you at least I get to speak with Jillian, and you can watch that. But even the solo shows like I feel like they get to speak with you. But the SpeakPipe link gives me the opportunity to respond to you, right like you leave me a message. Tell me what you thought of this episode. Tell me if you have a guest you think I should interview? Tell me a topic you’d like to hear me talk about, call me out or call Julian out on something you heard today and tell us what you think about it. You know, we’re here for that. And I respond to every single one of those personally with a personal voice response. So and it’s me, not some AI bot. So I would love for you to do that. And know that we’re going to continue to be here for you. We’re going to continue to bring the show to you every week with beautiful women like Jillian to introduce. I love being able to introduce the people in my world to you. And yeah, Julia, thanks so much for being here today.

Jillian Lambert 33:51
It’s it’s an honor and I’m just so grateful for a woman lucky in the world that are doing incredible, incredible work, bringing this message supporting other women. I think it’s so needed in our times and I’m so looking forward to continuing this journey that we can support each other.

Karen Yankovich 34:07
Well right back at you right back at you. Thanks so much for being here. Pleasure