Meg Dennison Talks Conscious Leadership, Resilience, and Vision for 2025

GGGR with Meg Dennison – Final

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Karen,
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hello. Hello everyone. Welcome back to Good girls. Get Rich. I’m your host. Karen Yankovich
and I am excited to be here today with Meg. Dennison, Meg and I have known each other for a
few years now. I love the work she does. So much of what Meg does is so aligned with the
principles that are important to me, and I’m assuming to you, since you’re listening, and I really
wanted you to get to know Meg, and she’s been on my list for a while to have on the show, so
I’m excited to have her here today. So a little bit about meg. Meg has been teaching conscious
leadership practices for over a decade, empowering hundreds of women to meet their ambition
and their own and own their authority. She’s done this through one to one coaching, business
workshops, live retreats, deep dives at her beautiful home in Santa Cruz, California. Meg’s
passion has always been supporting women and girls in their leadership journeys. She cares
deeply that women have the skills and support to share their genius and achieve their vision. Meg’s devotion to personal transformation makes her an inspiring force to her clients, and she
radically transformed her own life through the very work that she teaches women leaders. Meg
reinvented her 38 year marriage to the same guy she met working on the college newspaper.
She’s also reimagined her own career in midlife and switched coasts after launching her three
kids. Meg, loves the outdoors, whether it’s taking her big black Labrador Retriever on it for a
run on the beach, biking, skiing, or simply installing enjoying the stillness of a mountaintop. So
Meg, I am so happy to have you here with us today. Thanks so much here. Oh, I’m so happy to
be here. Thank you for inviting me. Oh no, so I’m so glad we’re finally able to do this. And just
before we got on, I was telling Meg that I had just visited Santa Cruz and absolutely love the
weather. So when Meg talks about enjoying the stillness of a mountaintop, I can now picture
exactly where she is, because there’s just such, I don’t know. I really thoroughly enjoy being in
California. All right, so, Meg, you’ve got, you’ve got personal experience with conscious
leadership. You do this work with your with your clients and transformation. Can you tell us a
little bit about like they heard your official bio, bio, but tell us a little bit about like, the behind
the scenes, what brought you to doing this work, and tell us a little bit about what conscious
leadership actually is,
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yes. So I think the best way to tell you about it is just to say, to say, from, like I came into
conscious leadership, which I think of, okay, conscious, you’re awake, you’re aware, and your
leadership is in is inspired by actually being awake and aware about yourself, about what’s
going on around you, and also conscious leaders in my book, take responsibility for their impact
on the world. Okay, so, so important. Meg, it’s so important. You know, I often say that with
visibility comes responsibility, and we have to remember that when we are more visible, and
we are all becoming more visible, that’s a big part of what we talk about here on the show.
There is a responsibility to that right, even like we hear this, even with like sports stars, right,
like professional athletes, they have a responsibility right to understand their impact they’re
having on their fans and their followers. I love that you bring that same concept to you and me
and to the people that are listening, yeah, and to everyone. Actually, I think of you know,
conscious leadership is you. You want your CEO, you want your leaders to be practicing it, but
you can also have an impact. It will help you. You know, being conscious of what motivates you,
of how you show up, of and, you know, opening yourself up to feedback can really help you
expand your influence, which I’m really all about. For women, I want women to be more
influential. Yeah, well, I think, you know, I think, as we are moving into. So this is going to be
going live that the end of 2024 as we move into 2025 I think that
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this is it’s important, right? Because when, when the pandemic hit, the world got noisy, right?
The world got noisy. And everybody was on social media. Everybody was, you know, posting all
over the place. And I think it really, I think what we’re what we’re recognizing Now, a couple
years later, is that if you are not standing out, you’re invisible with it, with all this noise, right?
So, so creating this, this more visible, more, you know, more conscious brand of your, of
yourself, and stepping into that and owning that. I think it’s never been more important than it,
than it is now, yeah, and it’s, it’s important from a business point of view, but it’s also important
for a personal point of view, from for people to really, and especially women, to really own who
they are and to own their gifts and to know.
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They want. And that’s one of the things that I see with a lot of women, is they actually don’t
even know what they want out of life, out of, you know, every day, right? Because they’re so
they’re, you know, if you’ve kind of, many of us have grown up with just a lot of expectations
about how we do things, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that’s why I did this podcast, right? If you go
back to Episode One, and you can check that out at Karen yankovich.com/ 001, I talk about that
is exactly why I did this podcast. I grew up, you know, in the 70s when you know, I mean,
where we were there was so it was such a different world for women than it is now, and I had to
unlearn so much to be able to be where I’m at right now. And, you know, I’m so grateful that for
my daughters and hopefully my granddaughters, it’s not going to be the same that, you know, I
think there’s way too much that’s still there, but there’s but I think a lot. I mean, listen, I, you
know, I go back pretty far to where we girls couldn’t even wear pants to school when I, when I
started school, you know, you had to wear a dress every day. So, like, it was, it was, you know,
it’s changed a lot. And, but, but that, but those, but those things are still kind of ingrained in us,
right? Like we still remember that, yeah, and, and, you know, getting, getting past that,
actually recognizing, you know what your what your true I want to say your true nature is, and
what here developing your skills. You know, if you have ambition, you want to have the skills to
meet that ambition. And that’s a lot of what I do with helping women become conscious
leaders. And I want to back up a sec, because you asked me how I got into this and how I and
it’s it for me, it was, it’s the journey of myself as a conscious leader and as a coach has been a
very personal one. So I actually learned about conscious leadership from my husband, who
worked at a big New York media company, and one day had a huge meltdown at his office, and
was told go, you know, he was a jerk boss, right? He was a jerk boss, and he was told to go fix
himself, okay?
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And so he did well, thank God they told him to go fix himself, right? Yeah, just go take a hike,
yeah? Well, that was the next thing. That was the next thing. So he went and fixed himself. And
what he happened to find, he’s discovered a coach who was a taught conscious leadership
principles, and so he brought that to his office. And those principles, candor, taking 100%
responsibility, really, knowing what you want,
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while he worked with his team and had a high performing team and a team that still loves him
15 years later, so he but he brought those principles home into our relationship. So we actually
became, you know, our kind of Couplehood was, became kind of a stew pot for conscious
practicing, conscious leadership, you know, we would, we would actually,
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we would actually do things like, you know, the Drama Triangle. We would practice the Drama
Triangle. Oh, are you in video? Villain or hero? Now, you know those kinds of things as part of
our relationship. So it was I like to say that that all of the things that I teach and I teach, I work
with teams, and I work with leaders, but all of those things I can also help people and support
people with the same things, because it works at home and it works in your other relationships,
with your friends, yes, with your family, with your kids, with your parents, all the people, all the
people. Right, right. Yeah, awesome. So how does it impact us, though, as like most of my
audience, are women who are stepping into a new chapter, right? So, yeah, so maybe you were
in corporate, and now you’re, you’re leaving corporate, you know, because I want to say, let’s
step back to something before we get there. You mentioned earlier that so many women don’t
really know how to identify what they want, what I and that lead that feeds right into, I think, many of the women listening right now in my audience, because I think what a lot of women
are starting to do is identifying what they don’t want, right? Maybe they don’t want to be where
they are right now, but they’re not really sure how to what it is, what the next chapter looks
like, and and how to determine how to kind of map that out for themselves, right? So how do
you help people with that? Yeah, well, two ways, two ways. And one is, a lot of times, you know,
we talk about time management, and I think a lot about energy management. So one of the
reasons that people want to move into another job, they’re like, oh my gosh, I’m so done with
this, because they their energy is just.
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Just been sapped. Yeah. So I invite people to go, you know, go through your week and actually
just look at what, what do I love, what is neutral, and what is dragging me down, and keep a log
of that and see if you can see if you can minimize some of those things. And this is about, this
is actually the first i The tenant of conscious leadership, is taking 100% responsibility for what
you’re creating. Yeah, there are lots of things going on out there, but you are responsible.
You’re responsible for managing your energy and for, you know, finding out what you know,
what lifts you and what brings you down. So that’s one thing, and the other thing is to really
explore what is in your zone of genius. And I know we’ve talked about this before, but your your
zone of genius is that thing that you do, that when you do it, you’re better than most people.
You do it better than most people, and time disappears. So you are basically in a state of flow.
Now you may say, Oh, I can’t have that all the time, but you actually can work more of that in
and if you are in a position of you you’re in, you may be doing things that don’t serve you
anymore, that don’t serve you as an executive on the rise. Oh my gosh. So true. Yeah, so true.
Continue. Well, I just wanted to say like to so to get rid of Look at, look again. Track those
things. Look at, what is it that you do that you are actually pretty incompetent at? And then
take the Get rid of that stuff. Or, or even if you’re just competent at it. Oh, there’s so many
things that you can delegate, right? Yes, and then you get to your zone of excellence, yeah, go
ahead. No. I was going to say one of the, one of the, you know, the big tenants of the work that
I do, and she’s linked up in all the ecosystem with all of our programs, is, let’s make enough
money to pay people to do that they don’t want to do, because that’s where you can now start
to accelerate your business and your your income. You know, it’s not by bootstrapping. Like
bootstrapping is, you know, maybe you gotta do that for a little while. And I’m not, there’s no
judgment on anybody, but when you can find that space, you know, I like to call it flipping the
funnel Right. Like, where is the big money? What are the big money opportunities? And let’s
stay really, really focused on that, so that you can bring in enough cash to pay people to do
some of these tasks, so that you can stay in your zone of genius, more more, and, yes, be able
to get more done. And sometimes it just takes, like, sometimes I just don’t think, at least in my
case, I don’t always realize I’m doing it. I’m thinking about, like, my morning today, and a
couple things that I did actually, I’m gonna, I’m gonna give myself credit because I did a couple
things. And I’m like, why am I doing this? And I delegated something that I have been doing
myself for, like, years, you know? And I’m like, there’s no reason. And, and it’s one of those
things that’s like, always, like, I procrastinate on right? And I was like, yes, to do this. Like, why
am I not delegating this so, so it’s not, it doesn’t happen overnight, right? I think it’s a process
as we, as we evolve. Well, yeah. And also you can, every now and then, you could just go, you
know, do an inventory, like, maybe even quarterly. What am I doing? You know, where is, you
know, the thing about like is, am I putting my attention on that 20% that is going to move the
needle for me. But I want people to also look at the moving the needle for themselves, for their
inner doing their inner work, so they can have the impact
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in whatever a big idea or big project that they have, because that is it also an important place
to look at where you’re moving the needle and what are the important things that you’re doing.
And that could be like that could be like exercise, taking time out, making sure that you know
how to create resilience for yourself. So think about that, creating resilience for yourself, yeah?
Well, that’s actually one of the things we you know, we’re talking about like, you know, the
state of the world. And here we are as we’re recording this. It’s like, I think it’s 48 days to the
election, yeah. And so,
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creating resilience for yourself, and we’re going to need if everything is uncertain right now,
and it’s always been uncertain, right, right? And it will continue to be uncertain regardless of
the election. Election,
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feel that it is more uncertain than Right, right? Yeah, but I look at things like, who could have
ever predicted a worldwide pandemic, right? So even if everything goes the way you want it to
go, with this election and life is good, you just don’t know when something’s going to come up
that’s going to be, oh, hang on, you know, what do they say? Hold my beer. I got this, you
know, like something else can come up. So, so how do you do that? How do you create
resilience? Yeah, so I the way i.
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Suggest that people create resilience is, and resilience is a muscle, right? It’s a muscle. You got
to work on it, because you don’t know when you’re going to need it. Something may happen
tomorrow, and you need to to know how and how to be resilient. So resilience is, there’s a
knowing of yourself. You know what is your own? You know, what do you need to keep yourself
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fresh and open? And I call like, to move out of defensiveness and into openness. So what do
you need for that?
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You know, something happened yesterday, and it was kind of a, something always happens,
right, right? And,
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and I took my dog to the beach and threw a ball for him for like, 20 minutes, and that shifted
me. So what are your shift moves? Right? What do you need to do to shift? So you should know
those things, right, right, right? Because we will need to shift. It’s not like, it’s, you know, it’s not
like, Okay, well, now life is good and nothing will ever happen again. Like, we will need to shift,
whether it’s tiny little things or worldwide pandemics, right? We will need to, we will need to
shift our energy. You know how to manage? You need to know how to manage your thoughts,
too. Yeah. And I think a lot of that comes, a lot of that comes with, I think certain wisdom
comes with every decade that you’re on this earth, right? Like you learn that this is good,
things are going to continue to change. Meg and I were talking yesterday, and I was telling her
that one of my one of the things that I’ve been doing this week is listening to Hillary Clinton’s
new book, and she starts out the book talking about Joni Mitchell, and Joni Mitchell’s being on
stage at the Grammys singing both sides now. And just I was listening to this and thinking,
these two women have so many decades of wisdom, and they talk about resilience, right? Joni
Mitchell went through some kind of accident, I don’t know the details, but where she couldn’t
even speak, and now she’s on stage at the Grammys singing her hit songs, and not given an F
about it, right? Like, what she like, you know, like, she just was like, I’m here and I’m doing it.
And I think talk about and, you know, I think Hillary Clinton knows a little bit about resilience as
well. So, so I thought about these, these, just these women. And I thought, like, this is what I
love about, you know, every decade that I get older, you get to learn that when these things
happen, it just means you pivot. It doesn’t mean the end of the end of anything. It just means,
yeah, I wonder what’s going to wonder, what next chapter is going to look like now for me, now
that I get to shift things a little bit,
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and I think that there is an I think this. I believe this was true for Hillary Clinton after 2016
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I think that,
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you know, she took some quiet time. And I think that’s actually a really great antidote to, what
do I really want,
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you know, to really figuring that out, because we are in, you know, we have our routines. We do
so many things just out of habit. So how can, if you’re looking for your next chapter, there’s,
there’s a lot to be said for taking some time out. Well whatever, whether that’s a weekend or
whether that’s even just a day, and it could be working with someone, but to get out of your
just to get out of your, your routine and everything that’s around you, yeah, I think that’s so
true. And then that also is not always easy. It’s certainly not always easy for me, but, you know, my brain is always on, you know? So I’m always like, Yeah, dude, that’s easy. So Right? So
easy. Everybody would do it right, right? It’s much more to work than
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it is to work hard, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, you want to sit when
people say that to you, you just want to be like, but it’s so true. It’s so true. You You know, I’m
going to get more done if I do less. Is that what I’m hearing? But it is, it is the truth, because
you can take the minute, you take a beat and just like, there, right? What? What is the next
path? And you’re, you’re not wasting as much time spinning your wheels. I at least that’s been
my experience. So I want to tell you, like, yeah, we’re talking about the doing, doing, uh,
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doing more by doing less. And I want to say that one of the things that I tell my clients, even in
doing more by doing less. And I want to say that one of the things that I tell my clients, even in
a meeting, is to take a minute to get themselves there as a leader, and to give everybody in
the meeting just a minute, literally a minute to breathe, to do whatever, to sit quietly,
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right? And I do encourage them to to to learn to lead and help people learn to breathe, just for
a minute. But you’re coming here, you know, you’re coming into a meeting, and you’ve got
you’re thinking about that last thing. You’re not even really here, because and then you’re
thinking about the next thing. So just to take a.
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Your breath, right? And, you know, that’s another thing, I think, to be resilient well, and I think
that’s also something we had, at least, I had to unlearn, right? Because I was learning, you
know, multitasking was a thing we were taught was such a great thing. And now we’re like, multitasking was, like, no, like, you get way less done when you multitask. And and we’re
learning, you know, we know better. We do better. But it is, it is so true. What you know, one of
the things that I I’ll give everybody listening a little tip, one of the things that I teach my clients
when I work with them on their their marketing process is before I get on these recordings, or
before I get on a call with somebody you know, a prospect that might be thing I take. I blocked
10 minutes before my calendar, and I just, I’m just quiet. I just like, stick everything goes away.
All of the windows get shut on my computer. As much gets cleared off my desk as possible. And
I just kind of tune in right to tune into them. Maybe I’ll pull up their LinkedIn profile and kind of
look their picture and say, Alright, I’m just about to get on the call. And I just kind of just step
back and release all the crap from the day. And then, yes, and then, just so I can be fully
present as I move into that because that, you know it, that is, I think the number one predictor
of of your success on those enrollment calls is your your attention is fully on that. And it’s going
to be if you did 15 things and you came sliding into your desk 10 seconds before you got on
that Zoom call. Yeah, that is magic. That is gold, and no one else can be present for you. You
actually have to do that yourself, right? And so, and that’s again, it’s like closing things down,
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being with yourself, being with your breath, managing yourself, you know, whatever, if there
are thoughts coming up like that’s maybe not helpful, or if you think of something, oh my gosh,
I forgot this, well, just write it down, and so that you can Bring your full self there, because the
power of Your presence is really what’s going to get you your clients. It’s going to help you
connect with your team. That is the power
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people half the time we’re not, you know, I remember, I remember when I when that book, The
Four Hour Work came out, which, by the way, I don’t love the whole most of it, I think is a lot, I
don’t know. Anyway, I will talk about piece that I did like. One of the things that I did like was
they really talked about, like, just being fully present when you’re working, you know, and and,
you know, when you do things like, for example, turn off your email for an hour if you need to
focus on something. And I remember thinking, I can’t turn my email off for now. You know what
there is. If anybody really needs me, they can find me, you know. And it just checking your how
many hours a day do you spend just being distracted by your phone, by your email, by, you
know, by all the things and and, you know, we, I think that we don’t even realize sometimes
how we could probably cut our time and sitting at our desks in half if we just learned how to be
more conscious, right, of what we’re doing absolutely.
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Yeah, yeah. So it’s not just about, you know, writing down your, you know, having your agenda,
but it’s about organizing yourself. How am I organizing myself to be fully present with what
needs to be done, and when you’re present it? Yes, you can cut it in half. So, yeah. So alright,
so back to conscious leadership. Okay, yeah, so we now know that conscious leaders, we want
to focus on the fact that we can be a conscious leader and be conscious of where we’re at right
now, knowing that, you know, I would say that that being present is part of that right. So being
present learning how to shift, like when you get triggered by something you know, learn how to
learn how to shift, what is it you need to do, and also knowing, understanding how you get
reactive, because understanding and feeling like, if you, if you know that someone, something,
or someone bugs you, and that when that happens, you’re going to get upset when you if you
know that’s going to happen, you can start to to feel yourself, feel that happen, and catch
yourself and do something different. So Meg, let’s go back to conscious leadership. Then what if
we want to step more into if we want to listen everybody listening to this show, I hope,
understands the importance of building a brand that focuses on leadership, and frankly, that’s I
think, I think everybody in this planet, you know, certainly over the age of 30 or 40, is a leader
in one way, shape or form, whether it’s in your family, with your kids, with your parents, or
whether it’s at work with people you work with, or maybe it was in your kids school or
whatever. Who knows. But as we step into that, and we start to own that, and we want to
incorporate more of this conscious leadership in because I think that that’s again, we if we don’t
stand out, we’re invisible. So that’s going to help.
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To stand out. How do we get started? What are the few steps to take to get started with
conscious leadership?
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Yeah, that’s a great question, and I and one of the things that I think is super important is for
people to understand their own leadership style, because we’re all different, but they’re like
nine archetypes that I that I work with, and when you know your leadership style, for instance,
if you know that as a leader, you are really keyed into relationships, that that kind of is your go
to, or as a leader, you are really the person who is the perfectionist you are looking for, you
know, making things perfect. Or maybe you’re the achiever. So success, being successful is
super important to you, so it’s important to know your leadership style. So it’s a way of
advancing your self awareness. And self awareness is key to this. And when you know your
leadership style, then you go, it’s like, oh, it’s kind of, it can be narrow in a way. And we want to
make it like by helping you see your blind spots. We want to make your style like, let you play
all the keys right. Because when, when things are going you know, when things are going to act
like, you want to be able to have a big range. You want to be able to take on whatever it is. And
that could be not just being, you know, the diving in, it could actually be sending back.
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So, you know what, figure this out. And what I love about that Meg is that it keeps when you’re
in that’s kind of going back a little bit to being in your zone of genius, right? When you know
what style works for you, then you’re more comfortable. Like the premise behind good girls get
rich is when you do what you’re good at, that’s where abundance comes into your life, right? So
when you find a way to understand your your leadership style, and then you build your, your
everything you’re doing around that style, you’re more comfortable, you’re more you’re more
confident and more effective, I think, as a leader and again, standing out.
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Awesome, yeah, yeah. And it’s, it is really important for knowing to help manage your
reactivity, because you know when things when things go wrong, when stuff blows up. I
remember being in the airport. I don’t know if you remember, like, a few months ago when the
computers went down in the airport, in like, around, like, everything went down. Yeah, I was in
the airport. Then it was chaos. I mean, and people were losing their stuff, they were losing it.
And that’s the kind of thing I get. Unpredictability that we live with. So it’s not just an election,
it’s our software, and it’s our software on a grand scale, but it could also be your software on a
small scale, you know. And how do you react to that? You know? What are the voices that you
hear in your head, and how do you get yourself present again, right when, right when that
happens, right? Yeah, oh my gosh, that’s so good. Other. Any other tips on kind of stepping into
your conscious leadership era, yeah, yeah, and finding out how you get reactive. And this is
actually a really, it’s an exercise that I do with my clients at the very beginning, also because
it’s when they ask them to put by their to hang by their or post by their phone or their
computer. And that is like, how do you get reactive? What kinds of things when something
happens, when it hits the fan? Do You Hear What do you hear yourself saying? Do you hear
yourself saying the shoulds or the cans or they’re wrong, right? Or what do you have to
believe? Do you have to think that there’s something happening out there, threats? Or maybe
there are only two options, right? A this or the that, but there’s always a third way. But we don’t
see that third way when we’re feeling defensive,
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yeah, and, and when you start to catch yourself, because this is all about practice, and that’s
that is, you know, it’s really hard for us to make change and to learn these things alone, and
that’s where a coach comes in, or a group comes in and you know that from your groups, right?
Yeah, yeah. One person has an Aha. Everybody gets that Aha, absolutely. And I, one of the
things I love about groups is, like, the whole lateral learning effect of it, you know? I mean, I’d
love to sit there, well, I wouldn’t even love to sit there. I definitely don’t sit there and say, and I
am the only one that knows anything in this group, because I’m the leader of the group. Heck
no, I learn from them every single day, you know. And I want them to learn from each other as
well. I facilitate the group. You know. It doesn’t mean that I am, you know, the know, all end all
of everything. And I think that that’s so key. But Meg, that takes us right to what my next
question was going to be, which is, how do you work with people? How do people get support
from you on this? Because.
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It’s not easy to see. Do you see your you know, it’s kind of like trying to see the outside of the
jar from the label, from the inside of the jar, right? How do, how do we start to learn?
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How do you help? That’s a great analogy. How do you see your blind spots? I don’t know. Have
you ever like put your makeup on when you’re looking the side view mirror? Well, that’s not,
that’s not actually where you’re supposed to put your lipstick on, but we do it right, right? Right
View Mirror is to help you actually see your blind spots, right? It’s to help you see what you
can’t see. And that’s what a group does. And so when I work with when I work with people, I
work, you know, one to one coaching, but I also do these deep dives in my beautiful Santa Cruz
home, which is a time for people to get away from their own, their own stuff, and work see their
blind spots. And that’s one way. And then also I have,
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I’m actually coming up pretty soon, the new year, a program where people will come in and
learn these leadership skills, and they’ll learn them in a group and with me, so they will get to
see their blind spots. Awesome. Well, we’ll put all your links in the in the show notes for this,
but tell us a little bit about how people can get a taste of this work. Is there something that
they can, you know, do to check you out in the meantime? Yes, yes. So in the meantime, I do. I
well you could put the, put the link in it. I have, I have an ebook on leading in uncertain times,
which I’m sure will be as relevant as
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it is today, and exactly I also know I also offer master classes. So you know if you, if you sign up
and get on my mailing list, then you will get all of that, or you can just jump right to it, if you, if
you resonated with what we talked about here, and you want to jump on a call with me, just
that will also be in the show notes, that you can just book a 30 minute call, and we will
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see how, you know, talk about how you can leave better in uncertain times. I love that, and I
highly recommend you book a call with Meg. I mean, anytime anybody offers you that, if you’re
listening to this, take them up on it, because it’s, you know, you’ll learn a little bit you I mean, I
know you’ll learn a lot from a call with Meg, but you’ll also learn a little bit about, you know, we
don’t know what we don’t know. And if you’ve been you know, as as you’re coming through the
end, if you’re coming like sliding into home plate at the end of 2024 year, if 2024 isn’t
everything you wanted it to be, then we got to think about what we could do differently in 2025
and you need to get somebody else’s eyes on that. What so, whether it’s Meg, or whether it’s
me or somebody, you need to, you need to get your eyes on that. So I definitely recommend
that you book that call with Meg for sure. And I, I think that, I think that 2025, is going to be a
good year for us, for us all entrepreneurs, regardless of what happens in the next couple
months, what we’ve learned in the last few years is that what we can always count on is
ourselves, right. So, so the more you invest in yourself, the more you invest in your you know
you becoming a better person, a better leader, more conscious, more skilled, showing up
differently, the the better chance you’re going to have of success. We can’t rely on our bosses
to just give us raises anymore. You know, like that just isn’t the world. I mean, there are people
doing that, but we can, we can affect that by investing in ourselves so that we can create. We
can kind of make that happen, as opposed we’re waiting for it to happen, right? So, so I love
that. Meg, thank you so much for sharing everything you shared here with us today. Meg talked
about understanding your your leadership style that leads right into something that we do here.
I have a What’s your marketing style quiz or assessment that you can check out at LinkedIn
quiz.com and that somehow that link doesn’t always work. So go to if you go to my website,
Karen yankovich.com/quiz or just Karen yankovich.com it’s all over it’s all over the place, but it
get that’s why, that’s why I jumped in on that. Like, when you know if you’re, if you’re if
LinkedIn is your jam, right? Or you know your clients are on LinkedIn, and you just don’t know
where to start. This is this assessment. Is where you want to start. Because some people do like
the relationships. They want to talk to people. Other people want to write a white paper, you
know, and other people like it’s in and it’s all okay, right? It’s all okay. And when you
understand that, it’s all okay. And you have, you know, in this assessment, we give you some
tips on how to get started, but not only how to get started, some things to watch out for, right?
Because there’s lots of tips. You can Google everything, right? But, but I want you to
understand, too, based on your style, what you might be like, you know, if you’re white paper,
you might be doing a lot like, I can think of one of my current clients, and if you’re listening,
you know who you are, who actually wrote a white paper, beautiful, amazing white paper. And I
can’t tell you, once a week, I say, Okay, can we put the to do list down and actually get some
clients like she’s so good at making herself more to dos on her to.
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Do list, right? And that’s her nature, and that’s her style, but that’s why I love to work with her,
because I can kind of poker a little bit when I see that happening too much, right? So, so in this
assessment, you get a little bit of that, and because I do agree with Meg that your energy is so
important, you also get some visualizations to help you start your day with. You know how you
visualizations are so powerful. Yeah, so powerful. Yeah. I love them. I love them. And I think it’s
so interesting because, you know, I created them, but, you know, you create them, and then
you move on, right? And sometimes I’ll go back and listen to them, I’m like, Oh, that’s good,
you know. So they really are good, and they’re just, they’re short, and that just gets you, you
know, to take a beat, you know, like we talked about, just sit for a minute and just kind of
center yourself for the day, and just move through your day more powerfully. So check that
out. And of course, if you want to know what it looks like to get some help, if you want to know
a little bit about our she’s linked up ecosystem of programs. We’ve shifted everything for 2025
so I’d love to tell you about them. If we’ve talked before, we need to talk again. There’s a spot
in the show notes as well for for to book a call for that. So Meg, thank you so much for being
here today. I am. It was so much fun to do this, and
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I can’t wait to see what’s in store for you as we move into the new year. I know you’ve got
some fun things going on. Personally, Meg’s got grandbaby on her on this way, which is
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your identity, right? We didn’t even get into that. But talk about identity shifting. That is
massive. It’s a massive identity shift that first grandbaby,
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interesting, because, you know, when I had my kids, I didn’t think about any of that, like I didn’t
think about, you know, what it meant actually, to be a parent, yep. And, you know, this is like
another thing, and what is my identity? And, you know, yeah, so I can’t wait for you to to
experience that, because I have it is a whole lot of fun. All right, thanks for everybody for
listening to us. I’ll be back here next week with another episode and Meg, thanks for again, for
being here with us today. Thank you and see you on LinkedIn.