You just heard who got the engagement. She’s been at this for eight years. You’ve been at it for twenty-two, and you could do that project in your sleep. There’s a reason clients hire less qualified consultants all the time, and it has very little to do with qualifications.

This week on the podcast I stopped explaining it and made you do it instead. I put you in the buyer’s chair so you could catch yourself.

The four-second test: who would you hire?

You run a company with sixty people in it, and your best new hires keep quitting before they hit their one-year mark. You finally got budget approved to bring someone in, and two names came back.

Diane has twenty-two years of experience and was a chief operating officer. Her profile says she works in operations, strategy, culture, leadership development, change management and executive coaching. The line at the top reads, “I help organizations reach their full potential.”

Marisol has been doing this for eight years. Her profile says one thing: “I fix first-year turnover at companies under a hundred people.”

You picked Marisol, and it took you about four seconds. Put their resumes side by side and you’d tell me Diane is more qualified without blinking. She still didn’t make your short list.

And yes, I rigged it. Every buyer rigs it the same way, because nobody goes looking for a consultant in general. She goes looking with one specific problem, and she scans for the person who is obviously about that problem.

 

Why referrals go to the consultant who fits in a text

Now it’s six months later. Marisol worked out. A friend of yours, another founder, texts you on a Tuesday night: “Do you know anybody who’s good with retention? We’re bleeding people.”

You can answer with your thumbs in ten seconds: “Yes, call Marisol, she fixes first-year turnover for companies our size.”

Say you’d met Diane too, and loved her. Try writing the text that sends your friend to Diane. “She does operations, and strategy, and some culture work, and coaching, I think?” You’d need a paragraph, and nobody writes a paragraph in a text on a Tuesday night. So Diane doesn’t get sent. Nobody decided against her. She just never came up.

That should bother you a little, because a lot of your business comes from somebody else’s mouth, in a conversation you’re not in. I told this story in [episode 390]: in 2019 I spoke at a conference for free, and that one talk turned into four paid speaking gigs. All four came from women sitting in the audience, who had a sentence about me they could say out loud to someone with a budget.

 

Why clients hire less qualified consultants: category first, credentials second

Think about a casting room. The director is not asking who the finest actor in the city is. The part was written months ago, and she asks one question about everyone who walks in: is this the part, or isn’t it?

Your buyer is that director. She wrote the part before she ever heard your name, and the part is her problem. She decides what you’re for, and only then does she look at your background, mostly to reassure herself that she chose well. Diane’s twenty-two never even got looked at, because she never got past the casting director.

They don’t hire the most qualified. They hire the easiest to cast.

Now go read your own LinkedIn headline the way you just read those two. Are you a Diane, or are you a Marisol? When I look at the profiles of accomplished women, and I look at a lot of them, I see Diane. Diane got there honestly. Every item on that list is true, and leaving any of it off feels like lying about who she is. So the list grows, and the longer it gets, the harder she is to pick. The list isn’t wrong. It’s just in the wrong place. All that range is exactly what makes you great once you’re in the room. It can’t be the thing you lead with, because nobody can pick a list.

 

How to write your “What is she for?” sentence

You’re not deleting half your career. You’re writing one sentence that answers a question somebody is asking about you right now, in a room you’re not in: “What is she for?”

Two examples so you can hear the shape. “I’m the fractional CFO for professional services firms that have outgrown their bookkeeper.” “I get family-owned manufacturers ready to sell.”

Then run your draft through three checks. Does it name who, specifically enough that somebody could say “oh, that’s my sister-in-law”? Does it name the situation, the moment they’re in when they need you? (“Outgrown their bookkeeper” is a situation. “Financial excellence” is a poster in a conference room.) And the one that’ll get you: could the woman sitting next to you at a networking event say the exact same sentence about herself? If she could, go again.

You’re probably going to write a paragraph. The paragraph is the finding. You just located the exact reason you’re hard to cast, and anything you can locate, you can fix. Clumsy is fine this week. And if the place this shows up for you is the money conversation, [episode 393] is the same idea one step later.

 

Your homework: text three people this question

Before you rewrite a single word of your profile, find out what people are already saying. Pick three people who know your work: a past client, a colleague, the friend who’s sent you business before. [Reach out] to each of them with this, word for word: 

“Quick question, no wrong answer. If someone asked you what I do, what would you tell them?”

Don’t hint. You might get your sentence back, or three completely different answers, or the one I hear about most: “Oh, you do so many things!” Whatever comes back, keep it. The distance between what they said and the sentence you want them to say is your to-do list, and you’ll want it in front of you next week.

Once you have the sentence, the next question is where to say it so it travels. That’s what I teach in my FREE Borrow the Stage masterclass, and you can watch it whenever it suits you.

 

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Buyers decide what you’re for before they look at how qualified you are, so the clearest consultant wins and the credentials only confirm the choice.
  • Referrals go to the person a friend can describe in one text on a Tuesday night. If it takes a paragraph, you don’t get sent.
  • A long list of true, hard-earned specialties makes an accomplished woman harder to pick. The list belongs in the room, after you’ve been chosen.
  • Your “What is she for?” sentence has to name who, name the situation, and be something the woman next to you couldn’t say about herself.
  • When your sentence turns into a paragraph, you’ve found the exact reason you’re hard to hire, and that’s fixable. 

 

Magical Quotes From The Episode:

“They don’t hire the most qualified. They hire the easiest to cast.”

“The list isn’t wrong. It’s just in the wrong place.”

“Nobody decided against her. She just never came up.

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Okay, I need you to do something for me, and I need you to actually do it, not just listen to me do it. For the next three minutes, you are not a consultant, you are not a coach or an advisor, you’re not looking for clients. You run a company with 60 people in it, and you have a problem that is costing you sleep. It is keeping you up at night, and the issue here is your best new hires keep quitting before they’ve hit their one-year mark. You’ve trained them, you’ve paid the recruiter, and then they go, and you have to start all over again. And you finally got budget approved to bring someone in, and you asked around, and two names came back. And I’m going to read you about both, and then you’re going to pick one, and I want you to notice how long it takes you.

This is Good Girls Get Rich. I’m Karen Yankovich, and we’re in the middle of a hiring decision. So let’s get back to it. Here’s your first name. First person is Diane. Diane’s worked 22 years. She’s got 22 years of experience. She was chief operating officer. Her profile says she works in operations and strategy and culture and leadership development and change management and executive coaching. And at the top, the line that sums it all up: “I help organizations reach their full potential.” And here’s your second name, Marisol. Marisol has been doing this for eight years. Her profile says one thing: “I fix first-year turnover at companies under 100 people.”

All right, pick one. I knew who you picked. I know who I picked. You picked Marisol. I know it took you about four seconds, and I bet you didn’t even feel a bit conflicted about it. So look what you just did. Diane has 14 more years’ experience than Marisol. Diane ran the whole operation. If I put their resume side by side and asked you who’s more qualified, you would say Diane without blinking, and you still didn’t hire her. You didn’t even put her on the short list.

I know, I know. Some of you are already arguing with me, “Karen, come on, you rigged that. You gave Marisol the exact problem I had.” Yes, I did. I rigged it the same way every single buyer is going to rig it because nobody goes looking for a consultant in general. She goes looking with one specific problem that’s keeping her up at night. Up at night. And she’s scanning for the person who’s obviously about that problem. This isn’t a trick I played on you. It’s how you hire. It’s how everyone hires. It’s how your clients hire too.

Okay, so I want you to think about how fast it was to decide Marisol over Diane because we’re going to come back to that. All right, round two, and this one’s even faster. It’s six months later. You hired Marisol and it went well, and you’ve half forgotten about the whole thing. And then a friend of yours, another founder, texts you on a Tuesday night, “Do you know anybody who’s good with retention? We are bleeding people. Who do you send her?”

Marisol. Obviously, you can type it with your thumbs in 10 seconds. “Yes, call Marisol. She fixes first-year turnover for companies our size.” And you hit send, and you go back and finish watching Grey’s Anatomy. But then, let’s say you met Diane too, and let’s say you like Diane and you had a great coffee with her and you thought she was the smartest person you talked to all month. Try to write the text that sends your friend to Diane. Go ahead.

“Well, there’s this Diane person. I had coffee with her. I love her. She does operations. She does strategy. She does some culture work. I think she does some coaching too.” You’d have to write a paragraph. And nobody writes a paragraph in a text on a Tuesday night, so Diane doesn’t get sent. Nobody decided against her. She just never came up, and this is the part that should bother you, because that’s where most of your business actually is coming from. It’s coming from somebody else’s mouth in a conversation that you’re not in.

I told you a story a few weeks back, and this is the episode about getting paid to speak. In 2019, I spoke at a conference for free, and that one free talk turned into four paid speaking gigs. None of the four came from the organizers; they came from women who had been sitting in the audience, and I can promise you, none of them called a colleague and recited my session title, or my bio, or where I used to work. They had a sentence about me that they could say out loud, and they said it to someone who had a budget.

Okay, so that’s two rounds of our game here. Marisol got hired, and Marisol got referred, and at no point did anybody check to see how many years she had. All right, round three. You can stop being the founder now, and I’m sorry because this is the round that might sting a little bit here. So take a deep breath and be ready. This is Jersey Karen coming out here with the flat honest truth to you.

Go look at your own LinkedIn headline if you’re driving. Just picture it. If you’re at your desk, open it and read it the way you just read Diane and Marisol, as a stranger with one problem and about four seconds. Are you a Diane, or are you a Marisol?

I’ll tell you what I see when I look at the profiles of accomplished women, and I look at a lot of them. I see Diane. I see 25 years and six specialties, and a line at the top about helping people reach their potential. And I want to be really, really clear about something because I don’t want you beating yourself up, especially if you’re in the car. Diane got there honestly. She earned every bit of that. Every item on that list is true, and she earned some of them the hard way, and leaving any of it off feels almost like lying about who she is.

So she puts it all in, and the more she’s done, the longer the list gets, and the longer the list gets, the harder she is to pick. The woman with the most experience ends up the hardest to hire. That is just the bizarre and completely unfair thing, but it’s also just how it works.

Here’s what I want you to hear, though: the list isn’t wrong; it’s just in the wrong place. All of that range is exactly what makes you great. Once you’re in the room, when that turnover problem turns out to be a management problem, which turns out to be a strategy problem, and you can handle all three because you’ve seen all three, that’s when your 22 years pay off. They can’t just be the thing you lead with because nobody can pick the list.

So, what actually happened in those four seconds? Because if you understand it, you can stop taking it personally, and you can use it. Think about a casting room. Now, I’ve never personally been in a casting room, but I’ve watched enough television to know how this goes. The director’s not sitting there asking, “Who’s the finest actor in this city?” The part was written months ago. She already knows she needs a tired detective in her 50s who’s funny when she doesn’t mean to be. So, 40 talented people walk through that door, and she’s just asking one question about each of them: “Is this the part, or isn’t it?”

The woman with the Shakespeare training and the shelf of awards can be the best actor who walks in all day and still go home without the job because nobody could see her as the detective. Your buyer is that director. She wrote the part before she ever heard your name. The part is her problem, and she’s scanning for the person who plainly, obviously, is about that problem, and that means the order is category first and credentials second.

She decides what you’re all about, what you’re for, and only then does she go and look at your background, mostly to reassure herself that she chose well. Marisol’s eight years were plenty once you’ve already decided on Marisol. Diane’s 22 never even got looked at because she never got past the casting director.

If you were with me last week, we talked about the same thing about your rate, what you charge. One step earlier, your rate gets set before you even say the words, and this is a choice that gets made before anyone compares qualifications. They don’t hire the most qualified; they hire the easiest to cast.

Okay, so what do you do with this? You’re not going to get less experienced. I’m not going to tell you to do that. I’m not going to tell you to delete half of your career. I want you to lean into all those things you worked so hard for. What you are going to do is write one sentence.

Okay, the sentence answers a question that somebody is asking about you right now in a room you’re not in. What is she for? That’s a different question from what you’ve done, and it’s a very different question from what you could do if somebody asked nicely.

Marisol’s sentence was, “I fix first-year turnover at companies under 100 people.” So let me throw a couple more at you, so you can hear the shape of it. “I’m the fractional CFO for professional services firms that have outgrown their bookkeeper.” “I get family-owned manufacturers ready to sell.” Can you hear how those work? You know, in one breath, whether that’s you, whether that’s somebody you know.

And then once you’ve got a draft of your one sentence, I want you to run it through three checks.

  • Check one: Does it name a person or company specific enough that somebody says, “Oh, that’s my sister-in-law?” Somebody knows exactly who they’re talking about.

  • Check number two: Does it name the situation, the moment they’re in when they need you? “Outgrown their bookkeeper” is a situation. “Financial excellence” is a poster in a conference room. We don’t want that.

  • All right, check number three, and this is the one that’s going to get you: Could the woman sitting next to you at a networking event say the exact same sentence about herself? If she could, it’s still a list wearing a nice outfit, and you need to go back to the drawing board.

Okay, now I already know what’s going to happen when you try this because it happens to every accomplished woman that I work with. You’re gonna write a paragraph. You’re gonna get three lines in and think, “But I can do this and I can’t leave that out.” When that happens, I don’t want you to decide you’re bad at this. The paragraph is the finding. You just located the exact reason you’re hard to cast, and anything you can locate, you can fix. So get it down to one sentence, even if it’s a messy, crappy one.

Okay, next week I’m going to show you how to go build that sentence properly out of what you already are and exactly where it goes. But for this week, clumsy, crappy is fine. All right. So here’s your homework, and it takes you less time than this episode took to listen to.

Before you rewrite a single word of your LinkedIn profile, find out what people are already saying. Pick three people who know your work, a past client, maybe a colleague, a friend who sent you business before, and text each of them this. And you can steal this word for word. It’s in the comments below as well, and the show notes:

“Quick question, no wrong answer. If someone asked you what I do, what would you tell them?”

And don’t help them. Don’t hint. Just read what comes back. You’re going to get one of three things. Maybe you’ll get your sentence or close to how you’d say it. In which case, woohoo! You’re closer than you thought. You might get three completely different answers, which tells you that you’re being cast in three completely different parts, and it’s all over the place. Or you’ll get the one I hear the most about: “Oh my gosh, you do so many things.” That one is meant as a compliment, and it’s Diane’s headline coming back to you in somebody else’s handwriting. But whatever you get, just keep it. Screenshot it. Write it down. Put it somewhere that you’ll find it.

The distance between what they said and the sentence you want them to say is your to-do list, and you’re going to want it in front of you when we come back to this next week. So let me pull this all together for you. You hired the woman with eight years over the woman with 22, and it took you four seconds. You referred her without thinking, and then you looked at your own headline and maybe recognized somebody. None of that means your experience doesn’t count. It means your experience has been doing a job that was never built for getting you picked. It’s very different than what your resume is telling about you. What’s going to get you picked?

And once you have that sentence, the next question is where to say it so it travels, and that’s the whole reason I teach Borrow the Stage. A clear sentence on your own profile is great, but a clear sentence said in front of an audience someone else has already built, on a podcast, or a panel, or a stage. This is how people who never heard of you start repeating it.

I walk you through exactly how that works in my free masterclass, and you can watch it whenever you want, whatever time works for you, it’s on demand. Go to karenyankovich.com/bts. That’s karenyankovich.com/bts. BTS is for behind the stage. karenyankovich.com/bts.

Remember what you learned in that chair today. They don’t hire the most qualified. They hire the easiest to cast. So this week, write the part down and then walk in like it was written for you. I’ll see you back here next week.