Intro 0:05
Welcome to the good girl, get rich podcast with your host, Karen Yankovich. This is where we embrace how good you are girl, stop being the best kept secret in town, learn how to use simple LinkedIn and social media strategies and make the big bucks.

Karen Yankovich 0:23
Hello there. I’m your host, Karen Yankovich. And I cannot wait for you to meet Karen visor. Today. Karen and I were meet were introduced there somebody who works for both of us. And you know, I know that anybody that D loves is somebody that I’m gonna love. So when she asked when Karen and I first were introduced, we had a mini conversation, I was like, oh, I need to have you on my podcast. This is such a great topic to talk about. And what we’re talking about today is identity. And Karen is really coming at it from a very much a right brain perspective, with a lot of I’m so amazed you guys listen to her brain when she pulls names of the authors of the books out of her head. And as she you know, she remembers quotes and statistics and who wrote them and it’s amazing. I was very not only am I amazed by her message, but I was really impressed with her brain as I went through this interview with her. So, listen, because I think you’re really going to hear some interesting ways that you can start to embrace your new identity as you step into your next chapter of your life. I am here today with Karen visor and Dr. Karen is recognized for her groundbreaking work in the field of mental conditioning, and how habitual patterns programming conditioning, fears and upper limit beliefs can keep us from realizing our dreams. And being the best version of us that we can be. Karen’s helped 1000s of clients remove the beliefs, coding and programming that separate them from living the lives they desire. She has also worked with clients who have been impacted by trauma to clear the cellular memory of that trauma, so they can experience the freedom to create their best lives. The losses of the past few years are real. And Karen is passionate about leading women who have experienced losses in their life rediscover reinvent and reclaim their power. Through her identity makeover experience. She’s got vast knowledge of alternative energy healing modalities, her Montra is one of her favorite mentors, Raymond Grace’s quotes, everything is energy and all energy can be transformed. Prior to embracing the coaching profession, Karen spent 20 years as an executive in the healthcare industry. She’s earned degrees in nursing, biology and chiropractic. And Dr. Karen, I am so excited to have you here with me today.

Karen Vizor 2:30
Oh my gosh, Karen, thank you so much. I feel so blessed to get to have some time with you and get to talk with you and share with each other.

Karen Yankovich 2:37
Yeah, I love this. You know, as I was reading, you know, of course, I read your bio, before we recorded this. But as I was reading it again, there’s just so many places here that I want to dive into. But, you know, tell me first, before we do that, tell me a little bit about what brings somebody from, you know, the healthcare industry and a degree in nursing in biology to mental conditioning, or maybe that’s a little bit more of a normal path. And it might sound like so tell me a little bit about your journey. What brought you to what you’re doing right now?

Karen Vizor 3:07
You know, that’s a great question. I never I knew what I wanted to be when I grew up, but I didn’t believe I could do it. Because my dad, what had a posture that you need to be a nurse or a teacher or a secretary.

Karen Yankovich 3:20
Yeah, I went to college for early childhood education. So saying

Karen Vizor 3:24
that his posture, and so I wanted to go to Design School for fashion design. And he said, I’m not paying for that. So I ended up going to a liberal arts college failing out after one semester, and costing my parents a significant amount of money because I really didn’t want to be there. And I was just kind of I was sort of doing drifting is kind of what Napoleon Hill talked about in the book, Outwitting the Devil, where we just sort of drift with no purpose, no desire, and I always wanted to help people. And I had visions when I was very young, of having a healing center. And but it was very different. These pictures, I would say, Were so extraordinary and so different. And

Karen Yankovich 4:16
and when you say pictures, you would see that’s pictures in your mind. Yeah,

Karen Vizor 4:19
like a vision you have. And so when I went to my parents, and I said, you know, we’re all cells in the body of God, I had been looking at the grass and like, these are all little people in the body of this line. And they both looked at me and said, Well, that’s nice, dear sir. And so I didn’t choose nursing nursing chose me. I was wandering around aimlessly, and I was offered an opportunity to be paid to go to school to get an LPN, okay, was the lower end and I was like, I wasn’t doing anything else. So I went, and then it’s really a very powerful indicator of how we choose Was that unconsciously another assistant no mindfulness like, oh, yeah, you wouldn’t pay me to go to school. Okay, do that. Then when I was in nursing school, I didn’t really like the limitations that LPNs had in terms of what they could do in their practice at that time, I was living in Massachusetts. So Northeastern University had a program that would take you to a nursing degree from the LPN. So I signed up for that and did that. And along the way, there were so many things that I just I allowed my ego or my intellect to overrule, which were that this was not healthcare, this was disease management. So I had a little bit of a cognitive dissonance and didn’t really like giving people drugs, because I learned early on that you gave one drug, and then another drug had side effects. So, and I was always very holistic. And so while my dad had that posture of you have to be one of these three things, you have to have something to fall back on. He also was taking us to New Hampshire for chiropractic care, because chiropractic at the time was illegal in Massachusetts, okay. You know, look over here, I was sort of, you know, hey, there were two sides of me, he was very psychic and very spiritual and very intuitive about health. And, and so, I have had a little bit of a cognitive dissonance, but I and I navigated that whole pathway, that whole Nursing Pathway, unconsciously, including being the executive in health care. And one day I was I had been working in Hawaii I had and I was flying. Back in the days when the airplanes had magazines. And I was flying to see my parents in LA, and they had an Economist magazine, there was a one page in there about Thomas Leonard, who is the father of the coaching movement. And it was talking about how he developed these coaching, this coaching curriculum and all of this. So I read the one page and I was all in, I couldn’t wait to get off the airplane, got off the airplane, went to Barnes and Noble ordered his book, which was called the portable coach. And I just said, I don’t want to do this anymore. I want to make a difference in people’s lives. And so and I’m not doing that in health care. I’m just loving it. And so I’m very grateful to him, because he became one of my mentors. I was other’s research and development team. I was a founding member of coach university when he started it. Oh, exciting. Yep, and did like a $5,000 coaching program. But then I read the criteria from the ICF, which is the International Coach Federation about how you if somebody if you thought somebody needed therapy, you couldn’t work with them? And I was like, Well, I, you know, there are people that have had therapy that it didn’t work for, and I don’t want to limit so I never certified because I didn’t want to sign the agreement. Right.

Karen Yankovich 8:02
I get that. I get that. Yeah. And by the way, how are you qualified to determine if you think someone needs therapy if you’re not a therapist? Right? So sorry, you’re not qualified to help them with therapy, but you have to determine if there be if they need therapy instead of coaching. Right. So. So it was, but it is an interesting, you know, listen, it is I get where they’re coming from,

Karen Vizor 8:22
yeah, I get where and I appreciate where they’re coming from, but I did not want to limit I had that knowing of something that was coming. And so during that process, my husband passed in 2002. Before he passed, we had a, we came to a place of peace, because we had a real rock and a hard place between us. He had the need to be perfect. His mother had been at Auschwitz, she was a perfectionist. He was a designer and a hairstylist had been very famous. And he was the kind of person who could walk into a house and move something a half an inch to the left or right and change the energy in the room. So if the cleaning people came, and they didn’t put things back precisely he like, be triggered by that. And we came to peace about that. But I was meditating one day, and I said, you know, God doesn’t give you a problem without a solution. And, and you call it God, Spirit universe, whatever you want to call it, it’s not attached. And so there’s got to be something else. Because what Thomas taught in his mentoring was not I wasn’t going to do it. And I knew if I wouldn’t do it, nobody else would, because it was like, Oh, you got to find this. And then you’ve got to tell your circle of influence how to figure it out. So that was my first awareness into have needs drive behavior, because I had that experience with my late husband. And so fast forward, I found out that the Germans were using bioresonance devices to shift energy of disease and thought, so I was like, Well, I’m gonna buy one of those things and learn how to use it because maybe I can get rid of them. leads. And so I ended up with five of those things. And I was going around teaching seminars and shifting energy with a spiral resonance equipment. But I had was limited in terms of what I could do. So I found this quantum physicist, I was so proud of my machine. And I went up and showed it to him. He was doing a lecture in Joshua Tree at the time. And he said to me, Karen, you’re every bit as good as that machine. You don’t need it. And I was so offended because it was like, dollars invested in these five machines, that I had to take extra luggage to schlep around the world, by the way, and I couldn’t I had to limit who I could serve. By the way. This is your belief system. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I didn’t believe him. But he said to me, so just find the fear of fear differentiates it’s all fear of change, it differentiates into fear of the unknown fear of separation, fear of not being good enough, you said, find those fears, and clear those with your clients, you don’t need the machine. He said, and everything will be really good. So I incorporated his teaching about fear. But I didn’t incorporate the belief that I was every bit as good as machines. So one day, I was working in my living room with a client because of course, I had to work in person, I couldn’t work remotely because I needed this thing. And unless they owned the machine, and I felt the energy shift, and I reached over to turn the machine off, only to find out I haven’t turned it on. And so then I went to three of my clients. So what if he was right? So here’s the mindset, this shit, yeah, so I invited three of my clients to work with me for 90 days at no cost to see if I was every bit as good as machine, they found that it was actually better,

Karen Yankovich 11:44
I bet I can see that I can see that to be true, right? I can tell I can I can imagine that to be true. Interesting. Then I

Karen Vizor 11:51
promptly sold five machines started operating remotely, and I could and then at the limitations, all these beliefs I had about my limitations were gone, because I no longer needed the machine. So I could work in any time zone, any place from anywhere, as long as I had a phone connection. And so I started developing and I developed what I called consciousness shifting, which I developed an expertise in the beliefs and the programming and the conditioning that we take on. Knowing that from the first three and a half years of our life, were guided by the reptilian brain, the lizard brain, also known as the amygdala. That’s where fear lives and survival lives. And then three and a half to about seven, we get the emotional, the limbic coming in, but without the societal expertise on how to deal with your emotions. So we end up feeling like we live in a pressure cooker overwhelmed all the time. And intellectual thought doesn’t come in until we’re seven. So by the time we’re seven, we’ve 95% of our programming and conditioning, and we’re running on autopilot. And so I become very passionate about, let’s find that stuff and shift it and get you out of your own way. Because you didn’t agree to it anyway.

Karen Yankovich 13:06
Well, and that’s one of the things that I saw in your bio, that I’m like, this is really interesting, because I can just imagine that there’s somebody listening, if not everybody that’s listening, because certainly I saw that one, huh. You know, sometimes you’re just like, what the EverLiving heck is going on? You know, like, what is in the way I’m doing the things I’m doing the energy, I feel like I’m doing, you know, I feel like I’m showing up and I’m, you know, and here I am still, you know, so it’s interesting that you talk about, you know, clearing the cellular memory of some of this trauma, maybe we don’t even know it’s trauma, right? Maybe we don’t even know that this was I mean, I’m, I don’t want to put words in your mouth. But I would imagine that trauma doesn’t necessarily have to mean, you know, something terrible happened, it could just mean, something happened, that shouldn’t have happened, right? And you were programmed in a way that was counterintuitive to wear, you know, to be supportive. And now you’ve got this dramatic shift that happened. That needs to be clear, like,

Karen Vizor 14:04
how do you do that? Well, it’s it’s a process. So the first thing is my work is very intentional. And it’s you’re right. It’s I don’t need to know what happened. We don’t we this was not talk therapy. We did not repeat this story. I tell my clients if I don’t want to have the same conversation with you twice. If we’re not moving the needle, I’m not doing my job. And you know, we’re not in a partnership that’s working. And I’ll tell you how to client. I work mostly with women, but I had a male client a few years ago, and he said, I could feel the trauma in his body. And I said, you know, Nick, did you ever have trauma as a kid? And he goes, Oh, no, no, no. Well, it really depends on how you define trauma because it’s the narrative is the interpretation that you put with it. And this fellow had, what had happened was when he was growing up, his mother was always searching for money to buy food to put food on the table. because his father was a gambler, and was spending all the money. So that was traumatic for a young man growing up in a household as the oldest child, having to see his mother go through this and wanting to, you know, want men want to fix you, they want to take care of you. That’s hardwired in them. So it’s about 20 minutes into the session, he started crying, and he said, Oh, my God, I did have this and he told me the story. And so it can be it for me, it’s not, I don’t need to know all the details, because I use muscle testing, to navigate. So Kinesiology. So my work is very specific. It’s not cookie cutter, someone comes to me and I say, What do you want to have be different in your life, and they tell me what that is. I use muscle testing to access their innate intelligence with their permission, of course, and their higher self to guide the session, and we find out what serves their highest and best good and that’s where we go to not always what they say they want. Like I had a client who told me she wanted to be financially fulfilled. And I think those were her words. But what you really wanted was freedom from this identification. So identifications when you identify as she had identified as a donor for several charities, and she was giving all her money away to the charities that yeah, we shifted that identity, and took away the need to give, because needs drive behavior. So if you have somebody who we’ve all had up been around somebody who needs to be heard, and they repeat themselves over and over and over again, and you’re like, I’ve heard you the first time and this is take 17, what’s new here, what it is, because they have no filter, they don’t know they’ve been hurt. So she needed to give, it wasn’t okay for her to have something for herself, she needed to give it all away. And so and she was identified as a giver, and and identified as a large donor of a certain charity. And we just neutralized the energy of that, of that needing to give in that donate it and she had a lot of tears. And we you know, we do carry this energy in our body. And sometimes you feel it might feel like somebody standing on your chest or strangling you or has your head in the vase or has your feet glued to the floor. But I’ve worked with natural laws. So the law says that energy flows where attention goes. So when someone is willing to give that energy that’s stuck in their body or their field, their attention as an observer, not trying to make it go away and not trying to understand it, not trying to figure it out, just observing it just being present to it magic happens. And like, gosh, it’s out and then your bandwidth expands. Because what I find for many clients is, it’s like, we have this funnel thing. And the top of the funnel is a field of all possibility. That’s where everything’s open for you. But over life, the insults and injury and the trauma and the stories and the narratives and the beliefs, they have a spiraling downward so that we’re operating in that lower 20% of that funnel. And we feel like we live in a pressure cooker.

Karen Yankovich 18:20
Oh, my gosh, so true. Well, I love it, you talked about identity, because that is something I think we should talk about. Because you know, you you weren’t a part of your bio, you’re talking about the fact that we’ve had some losses as we went through the pandemic, and some of which I think we are clear, right people that we lost, and some of it, we probably don’t even, we might even realize we’re losses until, you know, however many years down the road. And so many people are shifting their identity. I mean, we’re hearing about things like the great resignation, people are not willing to live in the same chapter that they were in, in 2019, before they’re stepping into this new chapter, and with this new chapter, I believe, is our you know, is a new identity for us, and how could we know how to be this person that we’ve never been before? Right, so tell me a little bit about that. And the work you do with these women that are, you know, experiencing this loss, and they are, you know, undergoing this identity makeover?

Karen Vizor 19:14
You know, that’s a really, really good question. So loss could be the loss of a job, the loss of a work environment, the loss of a vehicle, the loss of income, the loss of a spouse, the loss of a marriage, it could be empty nest syndrome, it shows itself in a lot of different ways. And I don’t think that there are many people living on this planet right now that didn’t have some type of loss over the last three years. I completely agree. They may not define it as loss, but they did and with that,

Karen Yankovich 19:48
it could be the loss of a dream, the loss of a plan, right like we even that even if the dream is your kids, like you had a dream for your kid to graduate this college, but now your child didn’t survive didn’t really do as well and we’re Jul school as they were doing, I mean, there’s just so many, so many different places that we have to, you know, process.

Karen Vizor 20:08
Yeah. And I feel like we can look at it as a curse or we can look at it as a gift. And in my work with clients, what I know is nothing wants to die. So the old version of you is kicking and screaming and wants to do everything it can to keep you in the known reality. But the truth is, we are either growing or we’re dying. Show me one place in nature where something is not either growing or dying. And if you look at a tree today, and you look at it a year from now is going to look different, it’s going to be bigger and flourishing, or it’s going to be shrinking. And, and I think that one of the common programs we have in society is Don’t rock the boat, just, you know, maintain the sameness. It’s one of the eight ways we choose unconsciously, which was identified first by Robert Fritz and his groundbreaking book, the path of least resistance, and it’s like just go along to get along. But that’s the problem that’s drifting. You know, that’s part of the stuff that Napoleon Hill talked about in Outwitting the Devil. It’s like, there’s no defined purpose. And that’s not who you are. So the first thing is I, what I what I coach on is, who if you could paint the canvas any way you wanted it to be? And you just get rid of all your objections for a minute and do some journaling? If, if there was nothing to stop you, what would you be doing? Who would you be in the world? Who would you? How would you want to show up? Who would you be serving? What are what, you know, where would you be living? What if you took all of those constraints off all those, I can’t do this, if I do that all those stories, and just allowed yourself to dream for five minutes, and not faking it till you make it. But just getting in touch with your heart, and your core and what your soul is calling you to that will change a lot of things for me love that

Karen Yankovich 22:07
so much. Hey, there, I just want to stop in for a second and just introduce you to D for a second D is the client concierge in our she’s linked up accelerator program. And she is who introduced me to Karen visor, and D personally knows the beautiful, amazing women that we have in our program. These are women that are working every day on their identity and doing the work to really step into the next chapter of their life in a in a big way, bringing more impact and influence to the world and more income to them. And when Dee said that I actually got I would love Karen, she was so right. And because she knows that this is exactly the kind of conversation I love to have in this program. It is not just about strategies, it’s about the strategies and the energy around the work that you’re doing. And if that sounds good to you, we need to talk because this is we are changing women’s lives with this program, or she’s linked up accelerator program. It’s a 12 week program that takes you through the strategies to put the most amazing people on your calendar. And to have them really seeing you as that expert as the influencer, who have you showing up like you are peers with the most influential people in your industry. So it fits that if it’s your time, if you’re feeling like okay, it’s my time, I’d love to see your name on our calendar, just go on over to Karen yankovich.com/call, you will see the calendar there. And I’ll get to see your name pop up. And I look forward to that. Alright, we’re gonna be back to the rest of the interview with Karen now. I love that so much get out of your head, stop thinking about how it’s going to happen. just dream about dreaming up dream big. And what is I love that I think that’s that’s very much aligned with the work that I do. And we do around here, you know, like, because we, I feel like most people can get a lot closer to that than they believe that they can get.

Karen Vizor 23:57
Yeah, right off the bat of stop dreaming. So I’m really glad that you’re doing the work that you’re doing. Because it’s so important. And it’s important to get support. And I think one of the things that that got really dumbed down for people or maybe was never there, but I’ve noticed a sense over the last three years is people asking for help. Ask for help. there’s help out there there are solutions out there for you. And if you there are ways to get what you want and have the shifts and the changes that you want in the story that you don’t have money the story that you don’t have time 100% as possible 100% of the time, but you have to choose that you have to choose that posture so so I think it’s it’s really important and then for the people who have forgotten how to dream who have stopped dreaming, that is has to do with your own self worth your own value your own self concept and I I can’t To a lot of clients to study Neville Goddard, he was, yeah, well, wonderful. His work. Yeah. And his work is powerful. And what he teaches that, that we’re the offering power. So we are the author, we are the actor, we’re the producer, and we’re the director of our show. So if you don’t like your show, change it, write a new script. And if you need help doing that reach out to someone like Karen, or to me, yeah, and find out what’s in your way, because maybe just a little 15 minute phone call will make all the difference for you. You may be listening to Neville Goddard, daily, you know, and starting to learn to be the opposite power in your life is all you need to do, if you know and so there are solutions out there.

Karen Yankovich 25:48
And I really believe and I know, you’ve already said this, and maybe not in his exact words, but you’ve already said this, I really believe that there’s no end to the identity work that I need to do. You know, there’s not going to be a day that I’m like, Alright, I’m there, I’m done. You know, like, I don’t have to do this identity work anymore. There’s always a new, whatever, a new chapter, it doesn’t even have to be level it’s not, you know, it doesn’t, you know, like, you’re saying, you know, you’re you’re growing or you’re dying, right. And, but each step of that is a place we’ve never been before. You know, so I just think when we recognize that, that’s when we like the first step is recognizing that and like you said, you, you know, ask for help, because, you know, we’re here to help each other, not just, you know, help. I mean, I I’m always looking for help on these things. And sometimes I’m better at asking for help than other times, right? But let me ask you this, what practices or exercises can we be doing now to start to cultivate this self awareness, right, so that we can start to build the foundation for personal growth and expansion? Okay,

Karen Vizor 26:47
I’ve got several, I just want to add one thing to Yeah, please. The societal norm, the culture, the programming has been destination consciousness, we are not on our way to a destination, folks, we are on a journey, and it’s a lifelong journey. Choose awesome, or you get to choose it to be mediocre. And there’s no judgment there. You get to choose because it’s your life, your sovereign, your the operant power. I’m just going to encourage you to choose the journey. And choose a

Karen Yankovich 27:21
good one. Because you could advise everybody to do that. And everybody listen to what what we’re talking about here.

Karen Vizor 27:26
Yeah. And so one of the things that I teach my clients is you’re placing an order at the cosmic restaurant. So why would you order something you don’t want about a it’s statistically they say about 80% of our thoughts are negative. So how, if you have 80,000 thoughts a day, and the statistics ranged from 70, to 90,000. But 80, that would mean that, but 64,000 of your 80,000 thoughts a day are negative, that’s got to change. So how do you change that, you change that by being in gratitude. Now, a lot of people do a gratitude practice where they write 10 things a day that they’re grateful for, I like to amplify that practice. And the way I encourage my clients to do that, and the way I do it is, not only do I write down 10 things a day that I’m grateful for twice, twice a day, I read it, so when you write it, and then you read it, you hear it, and now you’re visually connected to it, you have a sensory connection to it, you have an auditory connection to it, that gets it in more powerfully than just writing it. So that there’s also for people who have a poor self concept who need to change their self concept, who are living in a victim mentality, start twice a day with a with a practice of five things you love and appreciate about your son, I don’t care if it’s that you got out of bed today. It really doesn’t matter what you write on that paper, you’re, you’re exercising your gratitude and appreciation for you because you are, you have value. The very fact that you exist is evidence of your value, source God consciousness, whatever you call it, is the creator creator didn’t create anything without value. So I find for the identity piece, people have to own their value. And if you’re struggling with that, then find someone who can help you figure out why you do that because many, many people have made poor decisions and they’re still beating themselves up for the past and that is creating their present and their future. And all we have is now all we have is this moment. So in this moment, your job is to be the best version of you that you can be and decide what you want. And the filter that I like to share with people for making choices. is a two fold filter and step one is is this choice loving and kind of me to me and If not, why would you even consider doing it? I mean, really, and and then the second filter if it if the answer is yes, and you’re still going forward, the second filter is does this move me closer to what I want? Because again, if it’s not moving you closer to not your destination, but your journey to the individual, the sovereign human being that you want to be on this planet, and the person that you want to step into so that you can share your gifts and your magic because there is only one of you, by the way, then, hello, why would you

Karen Yankovich 30:40
go there? Right, right, right. Oh, my gosh, that’s great. That’s great. This is great advice. This is great advice. I love that you talk about, you know, we do hear a lot about gratitude. And I, you know, I and I don’t want to say that, like, it’s not important, because I believe it’s very important. But I liked that you take that to the next level. And you’re like, you know, just stick with it. And I think that that’s important. Because I know for me, and for many women, right? We have a to do list and you know, as much as we want to say I’m going to be in this space of gratitude. It’s also kind of on our to do list, right? And once we’ve checked it off in the morning, we’re done with it, right? And you’re saying no, no, bring it back, live in it, spend it, spend time with it, spend multiple times a day with it, infuse yourself with it. And I think that that is a big difference between I have a morning gratitude practice.

Karen Vizor 31:25
Yeah, it’s a state of being gratitude and appreciation or state of being years ago, I took a course with someone and he approached he suggested doing an appreciation lock without your cell phone where you would go out for 10 minutes a day and just appreciate the way the air felt on your skin. Appreciate the way the sun felt on your face. It’s beautiful. The color of the sky appreciate the color of the flowers you encountered, and just be in this total wave of appreciation. And it does make a difference because your vibration matters. Hawkins years ago wrote a book power versus force. And he identified a logarithmic scale in that book that went from zero to five to 1000. By 1000, being Christ Consciousness zero, pretty much. And 200 was a critical level of courage and integrity. I don’t know if you’ve read that book.

Karen Yankovich 32:19
I have read some of it. I don’t think I read that book. I read letting go. Which I love.

Karen Vizor 32:24
I love that book. Yeah. So anyway, at a level of 500, the frequency of love, which we can all attain, we can all be that we can all choose that love is our dominant vibration, you offset 750,000 People at the lower levels at 200 and below. So why wouldn’t you want to do that? Right? And

Karen Yankovich 32:43
isn’t that much more fun? Like, isn’t that a beautiful way, but there’s an intention that has to happen, we can sit here and say it all you want. But life gets busy life gets in the way. And I I you know, I’m I don’t know why this came to me. So I’m going to talk about it, I talk a little bit like if I’m standing on a stage and giving a talk to people, I say I know you’re like I can see you’re taking notes, I can see you’re all doing this. And I love that you’re doing that. But see those doors over there, like the exit doors. Those are the doors of amnesia. The minute you walk through them, you’re back in your regular life and you forget all these things. So what are we going to do, so that you actually put some of this into practice? You know, and that. And I say that not to shame anybody that’s listening here right now. But to say it is, it’s a common thing that you you really, you’re listening to this, and maybe you’re feeling excited by it. But putting it into practice is not an easy thing to do and to stay in that place. Right? There’s an intent, you have to be more than intentional, you have to be, you have to have an intention in a follow through practice. I guess I’m not even sure what that looks like. But it does come down to I think that people you’re surrounding yourself with too. If you’re surrounding yourself with people that help you stay in that space, it’s a lot easier to stay there.

Karen Vizor 33:50
Yeah, your environment is so important. And your environment is the people you’re with a clutter that you live with the things you tolerate, to other things people can do to help this one is a tolerations list, write down everything you’re putting up with every new floor and get it all written down. Look at and ask yourself, How can I group this into categories? And when you group it into categories, you can then say, Okay, what one thing could I do that would wipe out most of the things on this category? It’s quite extraordinary because they it will self organize.

Karen Yankovich 34:27
I’ve never heard of that. I

Karen Vizor 34:28
love that idea that came from Thomas Leonard. He taught me that many many years ago. Oh my gosh, it’s brilliant. The other thing for people who’ve stopped dreaming is to start a list of 100 things you want to do happy or experience before leaving the planet. Believe it or not, Karen I’ve had clients that couldn’t get past 12

Karen Yankovich 34:50
I do believe it. I do believe it. I am I know that you guys are listening. This is an audio podcast but in my hand is my list of things I want to do be have and I created it every now And then I started a new one. And on this new one, I’m up to a whopping 30. So I get it. I got it. You know, it is harder than it sounds.

Karen Vizor 35:07
It illustrates how small we live our lives and then what, what a small container is to exist in. And what if you could expand that, like, I’m going to go on? One of the things on my list? Well, I’ve got a couple that are have to do with travel. But one is to go on the Camino. I have a really good friend who takes trips on the committee takes people on the Camino in Portugal, and she’s done multiple times. She’s there right now. I wanted to go on this one. But my nephew is getting married on the 14th. And there was little date clash. Yeah. So in May and June of next year, I’m going to be in Portugal with my friend Jennifer on the Camino.

Karen Yankovich 35:45
Oh, that’s amazing. I love that.

Karen Vizor 35:47
Thank you the info about that. If you’re if you want to know about it, definitely send me info about that. 10 miles a day. And if your feet are sore, and you don’t want to walk, you can take a cab for about $3. And they stay in these cute little lodgings along the way. They’re, they’re clean and comfortable. But they’re not like the five star. Right, right. And it’s a spiritual, it’s kind of a pilgrimage. And it’s a walk and you can walk alone, you can walk with someone, you can walk with a group, and they all meet up for dinner. But the day is yours. And so it’s 10 miles a day. And if you don’t want to walk today, you can take a cab and meet the group, the next location, and they show up your luggage.

Karen Yankovich 36:27
Amazing. It sounds like amazing. It’s amazing. Yeah, yeah.

Karen Vizor 36:31
But that’s one of mine. And, and I think the other thing, there’s one other thing I’d like to share? Well, I could share a whole lot. But

Karen Yankovich 36:39
yeah, I would love to hear it. And then we can, I know we could talk for another two hours, needs drive behavior.

Karen Vizor 36:44
So just like the person who needs to be heard, they have no filter, but knees when if you’re stuck. If you’re experiencing stuckness, I can almost promise that you have a needs pattern, either in opposition, or what I call a circular logic pattern. And here’s an example of what I mean by that a child that grew up in a home where the father for example, modeled the need to be heard the child looks up to the Father and they start doing that this is the unconscious program. And now the mother comes in and goes children should be seen and not heard. So now the child needs to be seen and not heard. So now we have a juxtapose need to be seen, I mean, need to be heard, need to not be heard. So then you filter in, maybe something that happened that caused the child to need to be safe, and not and need to hide. And now they need to be seen. But it’s not safe to be seen. Because they need to be high, they need to hide, and they need to be heard. But it’s not safe to be heard because children should be seen and not heard. And that is a circular logic pattern. And it’s a very easy one to disable. But it’s if you’re stuck, there’s very likely something like that going on. The biggest one I’ve ever found was 11. And it was the client that had some severe trauma. And the smallest one I’ve ever found was three.

Karen Yankovich 38:15
Wow, wow. You know what, I’m pretty sure that everybody listening here right now is saying I think I need to talk to Dr. Karen. Good thing lucky for them, you’re willing to do that. So is there anything else that you want to share? This has been so important, because here’s the thing, I mean, I know that I just want to kind of bring this around to kind of tie it together in that this podcast is typically listened to by entrepreneurial women, or women in some kind of transition, maybe they’re moving from corporate to entrepreneur and, and this kind of stuff can get in your way. Right? And it’s and it’s sad to me, right? It’s sad to me, because you’re so brilliant. And you have so much to give the world. So these are these things are just as important as creating your website, right, like really showing up into this new identity or the identity of this person. And, and when you’re doing this, I don’t want to say it makes everything simple and easy. Because you know, that’s it’s it’s not easy to be an entrepreneur, it’s a brave choice. And at the same time, let’s give ourselves as much, you know, as much of a chance as we can write and create a life that we’re thoroughly enjoying and not struggling in, you know, and if we can get rid of a little bit of that struggle even it’s so powerful.

Karen Vizor 39:26
Well, you get yourself out of that pressure cooker I mentioned earlier and you get to move up to the top of that cone that funnel. Where is the field field of all possibility? And yes, the clients you’re serving when they’re moving from corporate to entrepreneur, that’s an identity loss. Absolutely. And the secure, logical, practical version of them wants to keep their feet firmly rooted in cooperation. Their Spirit is guiding them To people like you to you, too, how do I, how do I change this, and that. So that’s, that’s huge and recognizing that nothing wants to die. And that there, you can create a bridge between the two that it doesn’t have to be an all or nothing, it doesn’t have to be either. Or, you can create a bridge that will allow you to have what neville goddard calls a bridge of incidents, I believe he calls it, and you can create that. But the way you create that is by being very intentional about what you want. So if you want to become an entrepreneur, and you’re choosing that, then live in the acting as if I am that and allow the spirits that be the forces that be the energies that be God’s consciousness, to organize that for you. And I do work with some people in corporate. So

Karen Yankovich 40:58
that’s amazing. That sounds amazing. So we are going to put a link in the show notes on how people can book a 30 minute free connection call with you. So that’s amazing. Thank you for offering that beautiful service to our podcast community. How else can people find you? How else can people find out about the work you do what’s and what’s coming up next for you?

Karen Vizor 41:17
Well, I have a couple of things coming up. Thanks for asking, I’m going to be starting a podcast myself, Oh, that I’m starting with for right now with some free content that I’m going to do on Zoom every other Sunday, it’ll be two Sundays a month. So that will start this Sunday. If you’re listening to this podcast, and it’s afterwards, you’ll be able, you may be able to find it on YouTube, because I’m going to do it as a zoom. And our content, actually, I think for Sunday is going to be a little bit more about identity. And then it’s going to be a 20 minute content that’s free. And then there will be 10 minutes for q&a or group coaching. And that’s it 30 minutes, Sunday, four o’clock, if you go to my Facebook page, which is Karen visor, that’s k r e n viz er, you will find a link there tomorrow to be able to sign up for that and and that link will probably be up on Sunday as well.

Karen Yankovich 42:19
And you will find new and so we can link to your YouTube channel though.

Karen Vizor 42:23
Yeah, I don’t have a YouTube channel setup yet. I’m in live, I’m in the process of setting that.

Karen Yankovich 42:28
Okay. So by the time when the when this goes live will end. If it’s not live by the time this goes live, we’ll add it to the show notes when it does become live.

Karen Vizor 42:36
Yeah. And in my scam store. Because I gave up my website years ago, I was just like over it. I

Karen Yankovich 42:43
didn’t want to hear that. Yeah.

Karen Vizor 42:47
So what I have now is a stamp store and it’s stand dot store forward slash Dr. Cure, and it’s really simple. And you can go there as well and find the it’s called breakthrough with me. Well, yeah, well,

Karen Yankovich 43:01
that’s where the call will be. That’s where I see I see. Okay, so we’ll put links to those in the show notes so people can easily find it. And I love you know, I love that you’re offering this because I we need to ask for help. And you know, and then you just never know where these conversations are gonna go. Right. So thank you for doing that.

Karen Vizor 43:21
Oh, you’re welcome. And then I’m going to be launching the identity makeover. It’s kind of a relaunch. I’ve been doing this with clients and putting a lot of things together in one place in both a group and a one on one coaching experience with me. And I’ll be doing that in mid November.

Karen Yankovich 43:40
Okay, great. Awesome. Dr. Karen, thank you so much for being here today. This has been amazing. I’ve learned a lot. And I think and I you know, and it just is, even if it’s just a reminder of you of how important the energy around you is and how much control of it you actually have. Even if it’s just that reminders to, you know, again, infuse yourself with it all day long. It’s such an important topic. So thank you for sharing it. Thank you for sharing your genius with us. And I’m definitely going to be keeping an eye on what you’ve got going on. I want to see what your what your videos are all about. Thanks for being here.

Karen Vizor 44:15
Aaron, thank you so much. And for all of your listeners, just remember this one thing you matter and what you what matters.

Karen Yankovich 44:22
Okay, thank you.

Karen Vizor 44:24

Karen Yankovich 44:26
I so loved this conversation. I in fact, before we even disconnected from the record, I booked some time with Karen, to take advantage of her offer to chat because I think it’s such an important thing for all of us. You know, we don’t know what we don’t know, right? And if we can get somebody like Karen that can just kind of approach kind of just take a look at this from an energetic standpoint, and just give us their perspective. You know, we might hear something or see something that we hadn’t heard or seen before. So I highly recommend you book a call with Karen. Like I said I did And I hope that you follow her on social media. And that you take a quick screenshot of the show, share it with your audience. And if you go to Karen yankovich.com/ 257, you’ll see the show notes for this, you’ll see all the links for the things we talked about here on the show today and how you can connect with Karen. At that link, you’ll also see a link for SpeakPipe, where you can leave me an audio message. And I would love to hear from you from your voice what you thought of this interview. And I get to respond personally, which I love, because we get to have an actual conversation. So drop me a message there. And remember, share this with your audience, Karen and I will share it with our audiences. And then we’ll share your post with our audiences if you tag us. And that’s how we all get to support each other, right. And that’s how that’s how this lifting each other up thing works. And remember that if you want to know what it looks like to get some support with the kinds of work, the strategies behind stepping into this new chapter, as you’re stepping into this new identity, I would love to see your name on our calendar. Just go on over to Karen yankovich.com/call. Grab a spot on the calendar. And we can check and see what your next chapter might look like. And if it looks like it’s something we can support you with. And if so, we will tell you what that looks like. Either way, we’re gonna have a great conversation. So but it starts with you getting your call, get your name on the calendar. So going over to Karen yankovich.com/call. To do that. I hope you love the show as much as I did, and I will see you back here again next week for another episode.